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Originally Posted by Trumble In the case of the captain of the ship, true enough. The important bit is your quote from the Qur'an; Allah hath not chosen any son, nor is there any god along with Him; else would each god have assuredly championed that which he created, and some of them would assuredly have overcome others
Does that verse not say, or at least imply, that it is in the nature of gods (any more than the one being purely hypothetical, of course) to 'champion' their creations and attempt to 'overcome' others? Both of those are human concepts, and might apply to human rulers, but why a god would need or might want to do either is unclear - at least to me. Either God/gods actually have those characteristics or they are being anthropomorphically assigned to Him/them. If the scenario is an analogy (?) then what is it an analogy of? |
'might or need to do either' meaning what? I don't understand...
Your Q is using a general principle and applying it where it doesn't fit; or supported by fact and by fact here I mean from the Quran since that is what I assume you originally used to speak of 'wanting to do either'.
Lastly I don't know of any Gods who have called dibs on anything in creation, and I don't know of a battle between the Gods save in fairy tales.
Given you are most likely to wonder why Islam is less of a fairy tale than others, and rather than draw this out, where I haven't the time to dedicate to a long drawn out theological debate, I'll sum it down to a general rule used in psychiatry ..how do you distinguish one delusion from another from truth, when it all seems subjective,it is highly contingent on content...
If someone is having an actual organic disease manifesting in the form of a headache and I have no true scientific way to measure it, I can look at concomitant symptoms, sequelae, differentials and possibilities and use best judgment.. if someone says, they are seeing purple, green dots every time they drink cake juice, while maintaining they are lucid, chances are what they are experiencing is improbable as an actual palpable organic disease while there is still a list of differentials, it is unlikely that the symptoms they are experiencing are anything but an actual erroneous psychotic belief...
that is another analogy by the way, just to break things down to a low common denominator!
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