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Originally Posted by mirage41  A person can't just say "dhul qarnayn isn't alexander". |
Why not?
Disproving the theory that Alexander=Dhul Qarnayn is independent of proving him to be someone else. We can do the first without doing the second.
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How come so many scholars believe dhul qarnayn is alexander?
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As I've already pointed out, there are not 'so many scholars', just a few who SPECULATED that Dhul-Qarnayn might be Alexander the Great. They did not say their personal speculation was the definitive conclusion.
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How come when I used to go to Khutbahs in Saudi Arabia they all say he's Alexander?
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As above.
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The greatest evidence is the name "dhul qarnayn" it means two-horned, as in the ruler of the two halve, east and west. That imagery is only associated with Alexander, by the medievel greeks, persians and arabs too.
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I already responded to this. Evidently, you refused to read my link.
HERE IT IS FOR A THIRD TIME:
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Qur.../BBhorned.html Quote:
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It just seems that in the 20th century we now conveniently avoid this rather embarrassing story.
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Already responded to this:
Not really. If someone who didn't know much about the history of Alexander the great speculates that he could be Dhul-Qarnayn, why shouldn't those who do more research in this area correct such speculation?
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Another point: the Quran describes Dhul Qarnayn as reaching the end of the earth and seeing the sun sink into murky waters. There is NO OTHER KING that has the reputation of reaching the ends of the earth.
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Yes there is, Dhul-Qarnayn. Dhul-Qarnayn is not the same person as Alexander the Great.
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Only Alexander is regarded as a conquerer who reached where the sun sets. (note: there is also a flat-earth error in this Quranic passage).
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There have been hundreds of conquerors who's territorial conquests have led them to waters, allowing them to see the sun set! (note: like all anti-islamists claims, this is one that has been refuted hundreds and hundreds of times. See my post here:
http://www.islamicboard.com/174248-post7.html (Prove that the Qur'an is NOT the word of God.) )
You clearly are pressing something that has already been refuted numerous times. Why are you so desperate to keep trying when you're proven wrong?