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General_Mujahid · 09:59 PM

Salaam brother.

I've seen this before brother, and i shall explain it as quickly as possible.

You gave this hadeeth.

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Whoever among you sees an evil action, let him change it with his hand [by taking action]; and if he cannot, then with his tongue [by speaking out]; and if he cannot, then with his heart [by feeling that it is wrong] _ and that is the weakest of faith." (Narrated by Muslim, 49)

yes i know of this hadeeth Very clearly and know how Important it is.
However, you have taken this hadeteh out of context.

let me explain, yuor argument is that by voting against let';s say labour you are enjoining the Good and Forbidding the evil. This is incorrect.

If you read my posts on the other thread you can see clearly that voting for a Kuffr system is Sinful. And you seem to forget to mention that. Sure you are voting against labour and eg.. you are voting for Liberal Democrats. You ares til voting for a kuffr Implementation of laws other then that Which Allah (s.w.t) has revealed, so the method you have blatently taken this hadeteh out fo context.

Let me give an example of what you are saying here:
Imagine i am an undercover and need to infiltrate a gang. I need to Enjoin the Good and forbid the evil meaning i need to stop this gang from comitting sins ( drugs ect...) and arrest them. Does that mean, to achieve this, you are allowed to take drugs yourself?

For me to act as one of them and be a aprt of this gang, i must also take drugs. So you are sayin that i am allowed to take drugs as long as my intentions are to arrest these guys because that is forbidding the evil. What you are forgetting that the method i am USING to forbid the evil is Sinful.

Same way voting for a certain pKuffr Party to get rid of another, you are trying to forbid an evil through Sinful means.

I await yuor reply.

ma'salaama

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General_Mujahid Limited Member Status: Offline Posts: 35 Reputation: 39 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Still want to vote? - - 05-03-2005 Salaam brother. I've seen this before brother, and i shall explain it as quickly as possible. You gave this hadeeth. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Whoever among you sees an evil action, let him change it with his hand [by taking action]; and if he cannot, then with his tongue [by speaking out]; and if he cannot, then with his heart [by feeling that it is wrong] _ and that is the weakest of faith." (Narrated by Muslim, 49) yes i know of this hadeeth Very clearly and know how Important it is. However, you have taken this hadeteh out of context. let me explain, yuor argument is that by voting against let';s say labour you are enjoining the Good and Forbidding the evil. This is incorrect. If you read my posts on the other thread you can see clearly that voting for a Kuffr system is Sinful. And you seem to forget to mention that. Sure you are voting against labour and eg.. you are voting for Liberal Democrats. You ares til voting for a kuffr Implementation of laws other then that Which Allah (s.w.t) has revealed, so the method you have blatently taken this hadeteh out fo context. Let me give an example of what you are saying here: Imagine i am an undercover and need to infiltrate a gang. I need to Enjoin the Good and forbid the evil meaning i need to stop this gang from comitting sins ( drugs ect...) and arrest them. Does that mean, to achieve this, you are allowed to take drugs yourself? For me to act as one of them and be a aprt of this gang, i must also take drugs. So you are sayin that i am allowed to take drugs as long as my intentions are to arrest these guys because that is forbidding the evil. What you are forgetting that the method i am USING to forbid the evil is Sinful. Same way voting for a certain pKuffr Party to get rid of another, you are trying to forbid an evil through Sinful means. I await yuor reply. ma'salaama Last edited by General_Mujahid; 05-03-2005 at 09:59 PM.