To the Mods :
Asalam alaikum.
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At the end of the day, interaction between sexes isn't a good idea in many ways but it's going to happen. It also depends on what type of interaction. See via PM although yes it's not monitored, you can't see each other (unless there's a webcam thing happening) so there's less desire I think.
Anyways, we're all accountable to Allah (SWT) and if people have been doing wrong by using the PM function in an unIslamic manner then they will be punished accordingly. We can only set a good example at the end of the day. Maybe you should tell the brother/sister who is out of line to be careful.
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(Not my words,words of another brother from Another forum)
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Assalaam Alaikum,
There is an assumption made in this thread that PMs constitute Khalwa, when this is not true at all.
Further, it is not only Khalwa that provides us with laws and guidance for gender interaction. The practice of private frivolous chatting must not be condoned at all, but has nothing to do with Khalwa.
It is not PMs per se' which is the problem, for much good also comes from the PM facility. If you had access to my PMs, or the likes of HananD, you would consider it a blessing.
The problem is the illicit communication between people, particularly those of the opposite gender. The worse problem is that if people are stopped from PMing here, will end up in more permissive environment and communicate freely and with much more frivolity. We cannot just assess this type of thing in the spirit of "not in our backyard". There has to be a way to allow PM controlling between people where trust is not established, e.g., new users or unknown users. Further, if there is any evidence of Islamic breaches by any user, should not be tolerated, and such people should be banned from the forum.
This obviously raises the question of two consenting adults who involve themselves in illicit or frivolous PMs to each other. This is a difficult one to police. Which leads me to another matter- whether communication between consenting adults is policeable in Islam. I may have to return to this after some thought on the matter, but I suspect not. One of the Principles in Islam is personal accountability when it comes to communication. So, for example a love letter by a person to his/her illegal lover delivered by a third party is held accountable between the two stupid lovers. The deliverer is free from any liability. Food for thought, because "forbidding evil" is very often thrown around without much practical justification. And Islam is justifiably practical....
Finally, as long as perverts, smart alecs and rude people do not PM me, I am fine.
Was Salaam
Afroz
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(That is a post from my Teacher and Friend,Sidi afroz ali from the Alghazzali centre in Sydney AUstralia)
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Most people on these forums aren't kids, and shouldn't be treated as such.
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(That has been posted by a brother i highly respect)
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Personally I think (not that it matters to anyone anyway) that it is a terrible idea. Reminds me of the tree-chopping, grave-destroying, building-demolishing solution in Saudi Arabia to prevent people from associating partners to Allah.
Private messages being snooped around (i.e. monitored)! Totalitarian! Vendetta is against it!
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(And another..)
Having posted all that,...in my honest opinion,it is ridiculous for Mod's to be Spying on members PM's.We are (Mostly) Adults on this forum,right?How about we get treated like adults?Trust us to be civil,if we cross the line,we'll answer to allah s.w.t and be punished for it.
Thats my opinion anyway,..the mods can do whatever they want.If the mod's on this forum feel as if they are responsible for the Members actions,then so be it.I dont agree with it though,we all answer for our sins,the mods are not responsible for what the members do.The mods are here to keep things under control,to make sure that there are no arguements,that no1 is threatening any1,that no1 is troubling one another.
But Spying on Members PMs , I just think its going overboard.
Wa'salaam.
-Zubair
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