I would like everyone to refrain from addressing others (whether they be Muslim or not) with insultive terminologies.
Nahid
It is quite ironical that you preferred to ignore my post which addressed all your previous comments but skimmed to the posts that have resulted in ad hominem argument.
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I don't claim to be ibn Hanbal,
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At least we have all acknowledged that you’re not trying to elevate your status to the likes of knowledgeable scholars.
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but I do think there is a degree of choice and exegesis expected of each Believer.
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Although your statement is correct you phrased it poorly, a flaw which could cause anyone to fall into the wrong pit really. Everyone of us as muslims should acquire knowledge. There is an element of choice in the matter, after all we are beings with free-will and thus everything we do has a degree of choice.
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I think that, however wondrous and scholarly, ancient experts of the Qur'ân are neither the end of the line nor are they perfect.
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I do not recall any scholar saying that they were perfect. Thus it would be idiotic (to phrase it clumsily) for us to even think that these scholars attributed themselves to being perfected. One should not pour words into others mouth.
Ancient experts of the Quran are not the end of the line and no one has said that but rather we can not demolish their work simply because it does not quite fit in with our new 'modern' ways of life.
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I happen to see much misogyny coming from jurists, To be fair, some of them recognised and criticised, for example, certain hadîth authors for saying things about women that seem to contradict both the Prophet's life and the Qur'ân - the Father of the Kittens (Abû Hurayra), his sweet name notwithstading, is one of those authors whom classical jurists have chosen to politely note as having a bias against women.
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You baffle me with some of the commnets you make, it seems clear that you have a sweet tooth for ripping apart the likes of respected scholars and you have gone to the extent of naming Abu Hurayra (rahimullah) as being baised towards women. the implication. Ah, my only advice would be that it is best and wise for you to study Islam without holding ideologies based on what
you believe should be Islam.
Opinions are of little weight, actually opinions are insignificant and as you continue to hurl your thoughts it will be viewed lightly as you have no prove. As i stated before bring forth evidence for your spouting and all shall be fine. If you can not then say nothing.
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But nonetheless, there is a need for the doors of ijtihad to be reopened, yes, and they are just cracking open. There are not nearly enough trained scholars; god willing I will be able someday to write something of merit, but we need an entire generation with a new perspective.
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The doors of ijtihad are always open....open to those who have ilm
(knowledge) not the next random person who has read few books here and there and is unwary of much of its interpretation.
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In the meantime, I read what limited scholarship there is available that seems to seek out the classical techniques - authors whose work is drowning in a tsunami of "instamullahs" who do not have the learning to make the endless fatawâ they do. I am inspired by scholars like Abou el Fadl, whose work on Beauty in Islam made me change my mind about many things about Islam. I also have read works by a variety of other authors, including Wadud and Barlas.
This is not to say I limit myself, but there is such a dearth of modern scholars who are not drowning inside politics and the texts.
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there aren't limited scholars, rather the contrary but because your views are shared by such small percentage that are refuted by most scholars it is dismissed. It is evident that you do limit yourself, after all, you consider the number of scholars to be limited and that does give the impression that you only seem to have eyes for small portion of scholars. As for the rest you have a yearn to dismiss them because you do not approve.
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I cannot render legal opinions, nor would I pretend to. But as Muslims, we should be open to variable interpretations - the idea of tolerance is important. (Yes, Abou el Fadl collected essays by many scholars under a title like this, but I haven't read it yet.) I am willing to listen and learn from a variety of sources, and this includes attending the local MSA Sisters' Group - where I am the only unveiled woman (though I wear a kufi or the like so as not to disrespect the community).
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You contradict yourself, you have done the opposite of what you have said. As for you being the only unveiled sister in the MSA sister's group then that is your choice. Don't turn up with a kufi for firstly it is designed for men and secondly you should not care about people's opinion about you. If you're not going to veil yourself for God then don't do it for humans.
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Sorry if this seems like a rant. It's not.
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is a rant but that does not matter....
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It's just an attempt to express that there are more opinions than those circulated over the internet. Sometimes, when I read a "new" post here, I search for some words and find the same post on some dozen or even hundred other places. These essays are so often uncredited. When we are deluged by a hundred of these copycat essays, it is very hard to swim towards the truth. I feel drowned in the pile of demands on my behaviour, unable to disagree.
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It is quite ironical that you preferred to ignore my post which addressed all your previous comments but skimmed to the posts that have resulted in ad hominem argument. (quoted from what i said at the beginning)
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And at the bottom level, we all agree it is right to disagree in Islam. I mean, unless I claim to be the Prophet (or to be God - LOL), there is no compulsion.
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Disagree is a word used too lightly which really means nothing in this context, be specific. I think what you meant to say is La ikraha fee deen (there is no complusion in deen). Don't be selective....that ayah which follows ayah al-kursi is alot longer. With a lot of meaning.....
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Sisters say it is wrong to wear the veil unless you want to - I have heard here stories of women who removed it when they realised they wore it out of family or cultural expectations, only to years later don it when they wanted to because of their love for God.
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And that is how it is....don't do something for others but for the creator.
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I don't mean to offend people. Maybe I came off as brusque in this thread, or elsewhere, but I get frustrated when one particular notion of what it means to be Muslim is turned into a creed that everyone must obey.
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Sabrun jameel
Those who are well versed than you have more authority than you, unless you can measure up to their level of knowledge it is wise we refrain from speaking.
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I should be free to express my dissention. We get people who aren't Muslim who say all sorts of terrible things. But sometimes I feel that a Muslim who disagrees with community opinion is unacceptable when an outsider is free to say all sorts of extremely critical things.
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You know the answer to it but you are reluctant to face up to it.
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I'm not here to create trouble, but to talk about Islam. And there are more that one understanding of the practices of Islam, and these should be respected.
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Respect works both ways.....you can't expect to get respect if you do not show respect in the first place. Nonetheless it is your call.
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Anyway, that's all for now.
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I think that is enough talk together unless you will surprise me with evidence to support your claims.
I would say
but you have a tendescy of not returning them.
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