Salaam Samobosna96,
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Originally Posted by samobosna96  IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN HADITH YOU ARE NOT MUSLIM. |
And please give me the Quran verse that states that in order to be a Muslim you must believe in hadiths (the ones recorded by Muslim and Buhkari, etc). Please give me the Quran verse. Please give me the Quran verse that talks about Buhkari and the others that have recorded hadiths. With all due respect, where have these people been mentioned in the QUran? Who has given them authority? Does God speak of them?
But anyways... all that I really would like is the Quran verse that states in order to be a Muslim you must believe in the hadiths recoreded years after the Prophet's death.
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The Quran sayis you must obey God and the Messenger, therefore as a Muslim you have an obligation to believe in sound authentic hadith.
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Of course we must obey the Messenger. I totally agree.
But like at what you are saying "authentic". Why would God leave it up to us to decide what is authentic and what is not authentic? See there are "fabricated" hadiths and "authentic" hadiths, who are we to decide what is authentic and what is not? What you going to do if there was a hadith that was acutally "authentic" but yet people labeled it as "fabricated"? What if God questioned you on that? What are you going to say? Why not just accept all of the hadiths??
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Why dont you go join the International Submitters or whatever the followers of Rashid Khilafah call themselves, either way those who do not believe in hadith are KAFAR!
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Excuse me but why exactly are you so hostile? Who teaches you to be hostile exactly? You should be more respectful in your tone. I'm not an International Submitter nor do I follow Rashid Khalifah.
And again, please give me the Quran verse that states that those who do not believe in hadiths (the ones recorded by Buhkari, etc) are nonbelievers? The Quran tells me what a believer is, and I don't remember reading that.
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And yes Muslims are to kill those who first believe in the oneness of God then do not believe in the Oneness of God. This is apart of Islam just like it is in Judaism and Christianity whether you like it or not.
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But it is definitly not in the Quran, that is for sure. It is your "authentic" hadiths that have been declared authentic by man.
If you'd really like to go into this discussion you should start another thread, I don't wish to hijack the original posters thread.
salaam