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**Al Habeshi** · **Re: Is the Shahadah enough to be a Muslim? -** 02-21-2007

Yes I think there is an obvious difference between commiting a crime and knowing it is wrong or commiting a crime and thinking it is ok.

Some people say the Qu'ran is not all here, and that only some people have it, this contradicts Qu'ran and if proof is shown, I am guessing by a scholar, I mean this should be properly establsihed, not Jamil goes to the house shows him the ayah and says 'YOUR A KAFIR' it should be done properly, then if the person still says the Qu'ran is not here then they are denying the truth of the Qu'ran.

But at the same time, we can say, what about the people who commit bidda, are they not contradicting the Qu'ran? BEcause Allah says the religion is perfect, by them adding things it is like saying 'we are making it more perfect' in some cases that can be kufr. But of course not all people who commit biddah are kafir.

It is really something which needs scholars in my view.

And Allah knows best.

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Al Habeshi Eesa Abdullah Status: Offline Posts: 5,783 Reputation: 22161 Rep Power: 49 Join Date: Jan 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Is the Shahadah enough to be a Muslim? - 02-21-2007 Yes I think there is an obvious difference between commiting a crime and knowing it is wrong or commiting a crime and thinking it is ok. Some people say the Qu'ran is not all here, and that only some people have it, this contradicts Qu'ran and if proof is shown, I am guessing by a scholar, I mean this should be properly establsihed, not Jamil goes to the house shows him the ayah and says 'YOUR A KAFIR' it should be done properly, then if the person still says the Qu'ran is not here then they are denying the truth of the Qu'ran. But at the same time, we can say, what about the people who commit bidda, are they not contradicting the Qu'ran? BEcause Allah says the religion is perfect, by them adding things it is like saying 'we are making it more perfect' in some cases that can be kufr. But of course not all people who commit biddah are kafir. It is really something which needs scholars in my view. And Allah knows best. __________________ إتبعوا ولا تبتدعوا، فقدكفيتم، وكل بدعة ضلالة Follow (the Sunnah) and do not innovate (into it), for verily you have been sufficed. And every innovation is a misguidance. Confused about which religion is true? How can I know? Come and check out some proposed fundamental principles (#1 , #2) to aid you in making a decision.