your not getting it akhee, let me make it simpler

my definition of islam is the same as the prophets. When he was asked what is islam he sauid
1. to make shahadah
2. make salah
3. saum
4. zakah
5. make hajj

That is Islam. But how does islam "purify' someones heart. had islam been the sole source of purification of he heart, there would not have been no such thing as munafiqeen. You see, if islam purifies the heart as you say, then when the munafiqeen "accepted islam" then by default right then and there on the mere acceptence of islam it should have purified their hearts.YET it didn't. But we, as well all know, do not logically conclude reality with this reasoning.

rather what is necessary with the actions of islam is "ikhlaas fi deen"

so when it is stated 'la ilaha ilallah muhammada rasulullah" No one can ever say that that is not islam. rather it is islam. But how will that statement gurantee the purification of the heart of someone who says it. NO rather what will advance this purification is not the mere statement but to
1. have muhaba (love) for it
2. yaqeen (certainty) that it is a reality
3. ilm (knowing) of its reality
and the rest of the conditions of la ilaha ilallah.

You see islam is not connected with the niya of the person who proclaims it. Islam is concerned with the outer actions of people. when the khaliph enforces islam as law, that does not entail that he forces you to have muhaba of the shahada or that you have certain knowledge of la ilaha ilallah, he is merely forced by default to ensure that you remain under the shadow of the mighteist statement i.e. the sahahada.

so all those ayaah about islam has nothing to do with the topic of 'purifying the heart" of the one who accepts islam, all of thoe ayaah are related to the victorious status and virtuosness of islam, and not that it itself purifies anyones heart.

lets take a common example throughout he world today. Today we have many many sinful muslims on this earth, they rob, they steal, they even deem it permissible to act out of terrorism, they fornicate, and worst of all many wish to follow and be like their greatest enemy, america. Had "islam" been the sole factor in the purification of the heart, this reality would not have been in existance. That would mean that if what you udnerstand was the reality, then all those muslims would not be sinful at all on the mere premise of their being "muslim" or having "Islam"

that is why it is said that all muhsineen (those with ihsaan) are mumineen (beleivers) but not all mumineen are muhsineen and ALL mumineen are all muslimeen BUT NOT ALL muslims are mumineen


secondly you completely went in the foul ball area with this statement

I cant speak for musalman, but i can only assume, but as for me as a certainty and as for him based upon husn adhaan, we do not view the islam of the munafiqeen as 'real islam" Thats is not what I said verbatim nor was the implication behind my statements indicating that.

rather i said that if islam purifed hearts, there would not have been no such thing as munafiqeen and not that the islam of them is real Islam.

The implicated meaning of my statement is that when those kuffar who accepted islam and became munafiqeen, then why were they munaifqee if islam itself purifies the heart. By the virtue of their accepting islam, their conversion should have by default purified their hearts so that they would not have been munafiqeen. This is the reality of the implication of your statement that islam purifies the heart. All I said was that if this was true, there would not have been no such thing as munafiqeen, and not that the islam of the munafiqeen is real islam

I hope you consider and reflect the reality that is being relayed to you here akhee.

asalamu alaikum warahmtullah