wow, I will just as a 2 center

I said soemthing what Bassam said in that When he said "before Abraham was"

then according tot he context of what is being said, it is meant that he was part of the "qadr' or the pre determination, the will of Allah.

It is similar to me saying before Adam was, I am, meaning I was, and you were and everything we see was, and the people who will come 100 years from now were before Adam was. That is because they are all form the will of Allah from His qadr, and we were eons before He even created creation. That does not denote some kind of divinity for us. But thats the problem with the christian mind, It somehow becomes either crippled to intelelctual in-eptivity with regards to language and tradition far more superior in vasteness and elequence, or for those who rise beyond being crippled, they subject themselves to a bias unmatched by any sectarian group in the history of mankind.