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Default Re: Secret name of Allah - 11-20-2007

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Originally Posted by lewcow View Post
Perhaps I phrased that wrong. The name in question, is one that refers very often to Deity in the Torah and Hebrew Bible. Because I haven't found it to resemble any of the Islamic names for Allah, I wonder: Why is it so important to the Jews? they consider it a personal name for the Deity? And I find no corresponding personal name in Islam, in terms of similar word structure - as I have been told - Allah, if any, is The personal name - Faizah is correct, Allah in word form does not seem to resemble the Tetragrammaton (four-letter-word). But since the Quran says that Allah sent the Torah and Gospel, I am complelled to a degree to think that the name in question reffers to him - BUT, I am somewhat cautious, I understand that corruption can certainly be present in the Hebrew we see today - someone could possibly have added that to the text. I don't know what the differences are between the Torah we see today and the Torah given to Moses.

i recommend that you read Richard Elliott Freidmans "Who Wrote The Bible", which gives us major clues at to who constructed what is now known as the Torah. you can get it at a used book store for around $7.


But if this name arose out of corruption it would be a huge corruption, given its frequency of use. I see the point of that reference you gave, Faizah: if its not in the Sunnah, how would we know for certain? It's then best to assume its not to be used out of caution.

as far as i know, NO JEW ON THE PLANET uses the word/name! They don't want to violate the commandment "Thou shalt not take the Lord's name in vain." conservative Jews use the term Hashem for YHVH. they no longer know what it actually is.

My question is basically - what is the Islamic stance on that name? Is it just an unknown phenomenon?

The VAST majority of Muslims take NO STANCE on any aspects of Judaism or Christianity other than those in the Qur'an and Sunnah. they let Ahmed Deedat and folks like Br. Khalid Yaseen handle those matters as it would require that they learn about those religions.


It's hard for me to believe there hasn't been any deep scholarly debate on this issue.

as i revert, i agree and do alot of research in the area, but more to assure my fellow Muslims that Islam IS correct.

I'm curious to know if anyone has found one or more.


HOWEVER, there are a couple of brothers in England who work out some of this stuff. one of the things that they have pointed out is the similarity of the royal plurals Elohim and Allahumma.

if you write them without the vowels, LHM and LlHM m, then you have a pretty close match.

the brothers do some interesting and entertaining work, Insha' Allah, i will find a link to some of their Youtube stuff and post it.

EDIT: doh! i forgot about Br Yusuf Estes, and American Chaplain who reverted to Islam. he has alot more stuff posted on the web than most.

http://www.islamalways.com/


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