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Default Re: Supplicating: 'O Messenger of Allaah!' - 12-09-2007

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Originally Posted by Al-Zaara View Post


OK, something on topic. Just some thought that crossed by mind, please don't laugh, but like we follow the learned scholars so that we are capable of following the Prophet (salAllahu aleyhi waselam)'s way, correct? Yes, of course.

So in a way or another, our main purpose is to follow Prophet Muhammed (salAllahu aleyhi waselam). We kinda "seek help" from scholars, who give us proof and knowledge, so exactly that our aim will be fullfilled.

There's nothing wrong with following scholars, since they are alive in this world and we can benefit from them.



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Another thing I came to think of, is in a any day situation.

Like my sister is for example, too embarrassed to ask me to help her in her project or grant her forgiveness for something, so she goes and asks my father to tell the message further, 'cause she knows I'm not angry with Dad so I'll take it easier and 'cause Dad can make me think twice etc. She is not asking Dad for forgiveness, but sending the message further from a better source. Doesn't mean she wouldn't come to me directly, but maybe doing it thru Dad makes her think she's got better chances.. I mean she is "inoviking me" but through the stronger help from my Dad. Astagfiruallah, I don't wanna sound rude or anything, this was just thoughts and Allahu Aleem.

Again, there are many narrations where the companions asked the Messenger of Allah to pray for rain. Even many other prayers, however - after he passed away - they stopped asking him, and from the hadith quoted above [from sahih al bukhari] - it becomes clear that they stopped asking him to pray for them after he passed away. That was their clear understanding of the issue.

So it becomes clear that its not forbidden to ask a pious person - who is alive in this world to pray for you. However, once he has passed away - you should not ask them to pray for you since you are calling to them in a supernatural way and expecting them to hear you, although they are in another life now [i.e. the barzakh - the barrier between this life and the next.]


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I definietaly agree you should not pray to anyone besides Allah, and it is Allah whom your duas should be directed to, but tawassul has been defined as supplicating Allahu ta’ala by means of an intermediary, "means".

Let's see whats stated in the Qur'an;

Say (O Muhammad SAW): "Who provides for you from the sky and from the earth? Or who owns hearing and sight? And who brings out the living from the dead and brings out the dead from the living? And who disposes the affairs?" They will say: "Allah." Say: "Will you not then be afraid of Allah's Punishment (for setting up rivals in worship with Allah)?"

[Qur'an Surah Yunus 10: 31]




And verily, if you ask them: "Who created the heavens and the earth?" Surely, they will say: "Allah (has created them)." Say: "Tell me then, the things that you invoke besides Allah, if Allah intended some harm for me, could they remove His harm, or if He (Allah) intended some mercy for me, could they withhold His Mercy?" Say : "Sufficient for me is Allah; in Him those who trust (i.e. believers) must put their trust."

[Qur'an Surah Zumar 39: 38]



But what's their argument when they pray to other than Allah?

Surely, the religion (i.e. the worship and the obedience) is for Allah only. And those who take Auliya' (protectors and helpers) besides Him (say): "We worship them only that they may bring us near to Allah." Verily, Allah will judge between them concerning that wherein they differ. Truly, Allah guides not him who is a liar, and a disbeliever.

[Qur'an Surah Zumar 39: 3]



And they worship besides Allah things that hurt them not, nor profit them, and they say: "These are our intercessors with Allah." Say: "Do you inform Allah of that which He knows not in the heavens and on the earth?" Glorified and Exalted be He above all that which they associate as partners with Him!

[Qur'an Surah Yunus 10: 18]



The reality is, that praying for their intercession is EXACTLY what the christians, jews, and pagans [even at the time of the Prophet] claimed to do. They believe that Allah is their Creator, Sustainer, provider etc, however - they worship other than Allah. Someone might make an extreme claim by saying that invoking them for intermediation isn't an act of worship, but it really still is because you're trying to ask them at a supernatural level. You're not asking someone who's in your presence, rather they're someone whos died.

Christians claim they invoke their saints for their intermediation, aswell as Mary (peace be upon her) and other pious people. Us muslims are falling into the exact same traps.


We know it's Allah who alone answers our prayers, so let's ask Him alone. If we want Him to respond to our prayers, then we should strive to draw closer to Him by obeying His Messenger (sal Allahu alayhi waSalam.)
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