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Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint  Well, the Quran says Allah made the bones and clothed them with muscles, which may or may not imply that the bones are formed before the muscles.
Seeing that the heart, which is a muscle, is formed before the spine, no further debate is necessary, is it?:okay:
And I don't agree with what you said. Muscles and bones can start developing at the same time, even from the same tissue that later differentiates. |
Lol I just realised something about the ayat. I'll discuss it below
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Does the verse in arabic suggest that the "clothing" of the bones comes after they're formed or at the same time (thumma, wa and all that).
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The ayat states this: Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be God, the best to create! (23:14).
In the two translations of the Quran I have, the ayat is translated exactly the same - so there seems to be no discrepancy with translation. Now if I highlight the main point of this ayat that relates to this thread and argument:
then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh
So the Quran is actually saying that after the bones were formed they were then clothed with flesh (which is backed up by all embryology research, regardless of their opinion or conclusions on the formation of bones and muscles!) - it doesn't state anything about muscles or bones coming before one another, it simply states that the bones were clothed with flesh. So with regards to this comment, in the first post:
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I showed some people the verse and they said that in fact muscles develop before (or at the same) the bones.
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So, once again the Quranic ayat mentions nothing about the bones or muscles forming before one another. In other words the ayat has nothing to do with the muscles forming before/after the bones!
Which means my initial post and argument was wrong since I bolded the wrong bit of the excerpt. It also means that the person who stated the comment in the previous quote (not the original poster, but someone he had asked) had missunderstood the ayat completely. Which is what I did too!
P.s; I shall take onboard what you told me, whatsthepoint. Thanks and peace!