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It sounds here as if your mixing up the natural progression of mankind with a resentment over shedding the stranglation of catholisism.
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Well if for you a self destruction and moral fall is a natural progression, so I dont want this kind of progression in my country.
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But yes , in effect, Women who are striving for equality, people who wish to have independent thought & Homosexuals who have been oppressed by the "loving" church probably are feeling good.
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Sure and Im also sure that all those feminists,free thinkers and gays will feel like in heaven in Egnlandistan. It was really worth to break the chains of that opressive and homophobic church to feel the warmth of multiculturalism. Enjoy

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Ken Livingstone, despite his scepticism on theism, is just a bad example to bring out in any situation. The mans mad, even if he has a few rational thoughts.
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Yes he is mad.
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