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Default Re: Refutatiion Needed For an Intercourse Hadith on genetics?? - 04-23-2008

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Originally Posted by AntiKarateKid View Post
I THINK I GOT THE ASNWER for my original problem.
In the hadith where it talks about the man discharging before the woman,
the word which was translated as first also means dominate or overpower,
thus again, it seems to be a translational problem that caused controversy.
The man's discharge necessarily implies the genes and such that are present
in the sperm. Thus if his genes overpower the woman's genes, the child will
look like him. This is basic genetics. The word is dominate NOT first. Also, the hadith describes what
the man and women have as seeds. There were no words such as semen or eggs back then so this
is in laymans terms again.
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Originally Posted by Malaikah View Post


The hadith is authentic, here is a little piece on it:
Turning our attention to the child resembling one of its parents, this is also confirmed by the prophetic hadīth. The child may sometimes resemble his father, his mother, one of his uncles, his grandparents, or he may closely resemble none of them.

Dr. Muhammad al-Bārr, in the same book (page 164) writes:
In brief, the factors governing the child’s resembling one parent, grandparent, or even coming with new attributes that do not belong to any of his relatives – like what happened at the time of the Prophet (peace be upon him) when al-Farāzī’s wife gave birth to a black baby while none of their relatives were black – is a very complicated matter. Genetics plays a very complicated role. Some of these genes follow the Mendelian model with respect to dominant and recessive genes and others do not.

Even those genes that submit to such laws might at times not act in accordance with those laws. The gene may or may not be fully expressed.

Modern medicine is still ignorant of many of the determining factors that bring about how much a child will resemble either of its parents. Until now, we do not know the role that may be played by the release of one fluid before the other in how the child will resemble one of his parents. Until and unless this is decisively determined in the future, we have no other choice but to simply believe what our Prophet (peace be upon him) said. He does not say anything except the truth.

In fact, this should encourage medical scholars to investigate these matters and discover new things.
I have given you the answer of Dr. Muhammad al-Bārr, because this is an important issue and I found his answer to be sufficient.

We have to believe in what Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) tell us. We are certain of the fact that Allah says: “Of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you.” [Sūrah al-Isrā’: 85]

And Allah knows best.
http://islamtoday.com/show_detail_se...main_cat_id=31
It seems Dr. Muhammad al-Bārr, which to me sounds like an arabic name, thinks the hadith speaks of the time the mother or the father reaches orgasm not dominance and recessiveness..
   
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