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Default Re: Evil Manifest? - 04-29-2008

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Originally Posted by Nerd View Post
Here is how John Doe justifies his murders in the movie "seven": ...
Their is a big difference between god passing judgment and a human passing judgment to his peers:
* We don't have the right (permission)
* We don't have the responsibility (it is not our job, nor is it expected from us)
* We don't have the power (to enforce judgment of a person in a correct manner, a judgment without enforcing is meaningless)
* We don't have the ability (to judge a person by pure standards, to weigh of the total of good and bad acts a person has done)
* We don't have the insight (we can't be certain about what the intention, background of a person was)

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Let me restate my point here: I support religion, well the original intention. As a divine guidance, probably because we humans are too **** stupid to function as proper beings alone, and eventually fall into despair because our thoughts are always somehow mingled with our inevitable mortality. (According to anthropologists, this is how primitive pagan religions surfaced - out of our collective paranoia). Needless to say, religion, like their accompanying holy scriptures, has fallen into the intended dirty hands of Man, who has crafted it to benefit his own needs over time. Dominance, through any means possible; politics, wealth and even warfare.
Are you making a point or simply explaining your views? Because for the latter, I have no objections to you having your views, but for the former I would have to reply that your "point" is flawed by circularity since it is based on the assumption that religion is man-made. Obviously such an argument based on such an assumption is flawed and cannot be used against religious view.

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After viewing it, I realized that the ancient world remained in relative tranquility, even with a handful of different faiths. Only in the last two millennia did religious conflicts arise, which I imagine must have lead to a lot of human suffering. Human Suffering. Just two words to most of us. Its hard to grasp a full understanding of this concept unless you are starving for three days because of some religious war or just had both your parents beheaded right in front of you by a heartless crusader. If you do understand it, you would share my contempt too. All in the name of God, right?
Some important things to consider, the rise in population might also be a decisive factor, the larger a population, the more confrontation, and thus the more frustration/aggression and so on. I imagine many more factors can be brought up to explain the phenomena.
More importantly, you cannot judge a theory by it's followers. Just like you cannot judge evolution by Hitlers social Darwinism or you cannot judge love by the actions of a stalker.
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