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Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint  Just pointing out to my mistake, that's it.  |
That is humbling!
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Not at all. Descencion from apes is theoretically possible, descencion from 90-footers is not, because 90-footers themselves are impossible.
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I don't see why not? the same genes that code for large ape Jaws, can be the same genes that code for tall stature.. it is really all very possible if you know how genetics works!
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I don't remember ever using Galen to counter the Quran.
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I never accused you specifically.. I did however say many of you, use him as the correct source on embryology pre-dating the Quran.. in fact his theories have nothing to do with what is mentioned in the Quran.. and are in fact incorrect!
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37. Was he not a drop of sperm emitted (in lowly form)?
38. Then did he become a clinging clot;
Then did (Allah) make and fashion (him) in due proportion.
39. And of him He made two sexes, male and female.
40. Has not he, (the same), the power to give life to the dead?
Are you refering to this?
Why exactly do you think the verse implies male gametes are the ones that determine the gender of a child?
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ha? The sperm contains 23 chromosomes, of which one chromosome determines the sex of the embryo. The chromosome in the sperm is either (Y) or (X), while the chromosome in the ovum is always (X). When a sperm of the chromosome type (Y) mingles with an ovum of the chromosome (X), the formed zygote will be male (XY), whereas the embryo will be female (XX) if the sperm (X) mingles with an (X) ovum. So, the sex of the embryo is determined by the sperm (the male), rather than the ovum (the female).
أَيَحْسَبُ الْإِنسَانُ أَن يُتْرَكَ سُدًى ، أَلَمْ يَكُ نُطْفَةً مِّن مَّنِيٍّ يُمْنَى
as well as
وَأَنَّهُ خَلَقَ الزَّوْجَيْنِ الذَّكَرَ وَالْأُنثَىِ . من نُّطْفَةٍ إِذَا تُمْنَى) ) النجم 45-46 )
“That He created the pairs, male and female, from a fluid-drop sperm as it is emitted.” (53: 45-46),
is very descript for the sperm influencing the sex of the fetus.. a belief not commonly shared at that time, during preceeding time and actually not until very recently in medical history..
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Is this a way to account for the lack of mention of female gametes?
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oh how is it missed?
(إِنَّا خَلَقْنَا الإِنسَانَ مِنْ نُطْفَةٍ أَمْشَاجٍ نَبْتَلِيهِ فَجَعَلْنَاهُ سَمِيعًا بَصِيرًا ) (الإنسان:2)
“Verily We created man of a fluid-drop (nutfa), mingling (amshaj) , in order to try him: so We gave him (the gifts of) hearing and sight.” (76:2).
The mingled nutfa in this verse reveals the Quran miraculous nature. Nutfa, in Arabic, is a single small drop of water, but it was described here as (amshaj) , which means its structure consists of combined mixtures . This fits with the scientific finding, as the zygote is shaped as a drop, and is simultaneously a mixture of male fluid chromosomes and female ovum chromosomes.
Amshaj here denotes that the drop admixed (mingled) with a female ovum!
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You're right, it is a generalisation, but some things are true in general. Very few religious people will admit to the mistakes suppossedly found in their holy book, let it be the Quran or the Bible or the Bahai texts and will always find a way to refute alleged flaws. Christians, whose religion I suspect you deem false, have refuted practically every alleged mistake and contradiction (except for the creationism, but I don't think you mind that..). Of course, not all people buy it, I guess you don't and neither do I. I for one won't buy other religion's aplogetics either.
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Actually christians really haven't accounted for half the mistakes in their holy book, so they deem what they can't explain parables or scribal errors...
Bahais or ahmadis, have simply taken the Quran and snipped parts of it, added parts from other books to form a new sect... I can't deem it as a religion all together.. you must have a specific issue to want to discuss not just make random statements..
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It's possible one of the religions I mentioned is in fact flawless and I'm doing it harm by generalizing, but I seriously doubt it.
I don't know. Like every other person I am defending my beliefs.
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And you are so entitled
cheers..