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Default Re: Kissing the Ka’bah is not prescribed in sharee’ah - 05-13-2008

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Originally Posted by IbnMuhammad View Post
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Can you refer me to a book instead of copy and paste fatwa's? Anyone can shop for fatwas until you find that ounce of information that you suits you. I want to see more views on this because I refuse to blind follow, until then i'm not convinced.
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I've seen you copy-paste fatawa, now what's wrong with me doing it? We can't go and make our own judgments, for that we've got fatawa, right? And every fatwa you use is a fatwa that suits you, because you've accepted it.
Ikrima, Umaar and Uthman are said to have kissed the Qur'an. Ibn Abidin - Hashiyat rad al muhtar 5:244-246 and al Zarkashi - Ulum al-Quran 1:478 Al Kattani - Nizam al Hukuma al Nabawiyya 2:196-197 - al-Taratib al-Idariyya ("Prophetic Governance - also known as The Administrative Constitution"), Abdullah ibn Mubarak - al-Jihad no. 56.
Imam Ahmad radiAllahu anhu records this and Imam ibn Taymiyah acknowledges this fact.

Lastly, I just thought a post from another member in another forum was interesting and well put so I'm gonna paste it here:

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You need to differenciate between two points (the same applies to other things like Mawlid):
(1) The first point is in regards to asking those who don't kiss the Quran to kiss the Quran.
(2) The second point is in regards to asking those who do kiss the Quran to stop kissing the Quran.

If asking someone to kiss the Quran because 'kissing the Quran is obligation' or 'kissing the Quran is recommended', then, one should provide a daleel (Quran or Prophetic Sunna) that shows how the ruling (obligation or recommended) was made/extracted. On the other hand, asking someone to stop kissing the Quran requires a 'daleel' which shows that this action is either forbidden, disliked, or an innovation. Unfortunately, when it comes to this point, if there is no daleel that it is forbidden or disliked, there are two line of reasonings/understanding:
- The first one says the action is an innovation without looking at its permissiblity.
- The second one says the action is permissible or even a good innovation (bid'a hasana) if it doesn't contain 'haram' or 'makrooh' things.

When it comes to kissing the Quran, it is the seen, by the second group, as something permissible especially that some of the salaf have done it. Those who do kiss the Quran cannot ask those who don't do it to do it unless it is an advice out of respect to the Quran. Also, those who don't kiss the Quran cannot ask those who do it to stop doing it.

But I shall leave the thread now and not continue this, I'm way off-topic and that's not of good behaviour.

Selam aleykum
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