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Default Re: What is Knowledge in Islam? - 06-05-2008

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Originally Posted by Quixotic View Post
Ok then....

Proposition: The Koran claims Jesus shaped a bird from clay, which became a bird and flew away.

Truth: In 5:110 (The table spread) Allah says to Jesus says: 'how thou didst shape of clay as it were the likeness of a bird by My permission, and didst blow upon it and it was a bird'

Conclusion: This is knowledge of the Koran

.....however.....

This is not knowledge of the real world. Jesus did not create a living bird from clay. This is not possible.
No, you are still not getting it, the Qur'an's author refers to Knowledge as being praiseworthy, the Question araises, what type of knowlegde is they author refering to?

As you see, could it be, knowledge which one memorises of the hadith, or is it knowledge of the natural world? Or is it a different type of knowledge.


Your example should read:

Conclusion: The Qur'an claims certain events to have happend, Jesus making birds out of clay ect.

This could be knowledge of what really happend, but cannot be variefied if we use the yardstick of historians, as it is a historical event for which there are no historically accepted sources.

What we may say is, according to our experiences in life this event has never happend before, and therefore maybe seen as unlikely!
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