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Originally Posted by aamirsaab  Hmm. I don't know. But then I guess your follow up would be why call it wine, in which case it's either a metaphor, a literal sense targeted at those who wish to drink wine (say, the arabs at the time of the verses revelation) or it is a type of wine (which we've covered).
It is rather clear, precise and comprehensible. The only thing that seems to be confusing people about these verses is the usage of wine - which I've given 3 seperate possibilities for (though, only one has been backed up via a scholar's translation - so I'd put my bet on that one). |
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This suggest that the Quran is indeed speaking of a type of wine as opposed to wine itself."
Forgive me but I just don't see how this sentence makes any sense.
Wine is wine by virtue of the ingredients and the process of fermentation to produce alcohol.
There's a perfectly good name for drinks that haven't been made that way: fruit juice. Better yet, just pick any other name because it's not like anything we know, and it's absolutely nothing like wine so maybe a name that better reflects that?
You might as well say that in Paradise you can eat pork, but it's pork that comes from a chicken and tastes like pineapple.
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Originally Posted by Muhammad You are going round in circles. Who said that the things in Paradise are comprehensible by all? You said yourself, "In paradise these things are completely different to anything on earth and beyond our mere human senses". The illogicality arises in not willing to accept such a simple concept. |
I'm not talking about Paradise, I'm talking about the Quran being clear. By the way, if a place that is totally beyond human comprehension and senses is a simple concept then I take my hat off to you
