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    Assalamu 3alaycom wr wb !
    Hope you're all in good health aftre the upgrade storm

    Ok, if this topic is already existing in another thread, so please someone link this thread to it or just delete this thread and give me the other link.

    That's something which made me confused : When I open the 'mushaf' and read Surat al-Fatiha, I find the the word/ayah "bismillah-ir-ra7hmen-ir-rahim" (In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.) is numbered as Ayah N1. So we should always read it, otherwise the Fatiha will not be complete. And if, in the salat, the fatiha is not complete (completely read), then the salat will be invalid.

    But after praying behind a big number of Imams, I realised that they do not pronounce the first ayah (bismillah...) and start reciting from "Al-hamdulilli rabi-l-aalamin...etc", So I'm confused :

    1) did they not read it at all ? and in this case, is their salat correct ?

    2) did they read it in a low voice so i can't hear it ? and also is this correct ? For example in Isha Prayer, you have to read qur'an aloud (every ayah in fatiha should be read aloud), so will salat in this case be considered incomplete ?

    Please if someone has a clear response from scholars or ahadeeth, it'll be very helpful.



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    Default Re: saying bismillah in salat ?




    There is a difference of opinion among the fuqaha on whether Bismillah is a part of Surah Al-Fatihah or not. According to Imam Shaf'i (RH), it is part of Surah Al-Fatihah, therefore he recited it aloud in Salah. But according to Imam Abu Hanifah (RH) and other fuqaha, it is not part of Surah Fatihah. Nevertheless, Bismillah is still recited before Surah Al-Fatihah, but softly.

    Please check the following Fatawa for details:
    http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.p...a0698a7d937e89

    http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.p...4864be6924f5c6

    http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.p...89240d8346b9ac
    Last edited by ibṉĀdam; 05-07-2010 at 08:24 PM.




    And complete the Hajj and 'umrah for Allah. But if you are prevented, then [offer] what can be obtained with ease of sacrificial animals. And do not shave your heads until the sacrificial animal has reached its place of slaughter. And whoever among you is ill or has an ailment of the head [making shaving necessary must offer] a ransom of fasting [three days] or charity or sacrifice. And when you are secure, then whoever performs 'umrah [during the Hajj months] followed by Hajj [offers] what can be obtained with ease of sacrificial animals. And whoever cannot find [or afford such an animal] - then a fast of three days during Hajj and of seven when you have returned [home]. Those are ten complete [days]. This is for those whose family is not in the area of al-Masjid al-Haram. And fear Allah and know that Allah is severe in penalty. [Surah Al-Baqarah: 196]
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    Default Re: saying bismillah in salat ?


    Does Bismillah mean 'In the name of Allah'?

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    Default Re: saying bismillah in salat ?


    Quote Originally Posted by Supreme View Post
    Does Bismillah mean 'In the name of Allah'?
    yep and Bismillah hirahman niraheem means = In the name of Allah, Most Beneficient, Most Merciful



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    Default Re: saying bismillah in salat ?


    Quote Originally Posted by AabiruSabeel View Post


    There is a difference of opinion among the fuqaha on whether Bismillah is a part of Surah Al-Fatihah or not. According to Imam Shaf'i (RH), it is part of Surah Al-Fatihah, therefore he recited it aloud in Salah. But according to Imam Abu Hanifah (RH) and other fuqaha, it is not part of Surah Fatihah. Nevertheless, Bismillah is still recited before Surah Al-Fatihah, but softly.

    Please check the following Fatawa for details:
    http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.p...a0698a7d937e89

    http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.p...4864be6924f5c6

    http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.p...89240d8346b9ac
    Jazak Allaho khairan Akhi.



    "O you who believe! Fear ALLAH as He should be feared" [aal 'Imraan, 102]

    يَـٰٓأَيُّہَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ ٱتَّقُواْ ٱللَّهَ حَقَّ تُقَاتِهِۦ آل عِمرَان - 102




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