Husband&wife: how much affection is it appropriate to show in front of the family? - Page 2

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Originally Posted by Suffiyan007

if you love your wife/love your husband no harm show affection in front of people,either relatives or parents of the husband and wife...the parents also showing affective to the love one...! cause if u love someone,u wil hug or kiss on forehead or cheek....rather mouth to show obvious...so if u love your wife u can hug whether is in public...and people just ignored what u did...even your parents kissing and hugging..! just to make happening..! i not that kind of narrow minded...! i know muslim restricted cause the act is inappropriate, cause married couple is married,if not marry yet is haram..cause Khalwat,the act for the couple not yet married and have an affair..for me husband and wife kissing and hugging in front family is to make witness from the family to see them their like loving and happiness couple.! other will feel hope they be in love again.!

whitemuslimah, please make sure you note this down as his opinion, because Islaam is totally opposite to this.

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These might be of use inshaAllaah;

http://www.islamicboard.com/prophet-...ve-aishah.html

http://www.islamicboard.com/refutati...highlight=love

http://www.islamicboard.com/prophet-...w-husband.html

Suffiyan007 · 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Suffiyan007

if you love your wife/love your husband no harm show affection in front of people,either relatives or parents of the husband and wife...the parents also showing affective to the love one...! cause if u love someone,u wil hug or kiss on forehead or cheek....rather mouth to show obvious...so if u love your wife u can hug whether is in public...and people just ignored what u did...even your parents kissing and hugging..! just to make happening..! i not that kind of narrow minded...! i know muslim restricted cause the act is inappropriate, cause married couple is married,if not marry yet is haram..cause Khalwat,the act for the couple not yet married and have an affair..for me husband and wife kissing and hugging in front family is to make witness from the family to see them their like loving and happiness couple.! other will feel hope they be in love again.!

I knew that u asked her to quote my comment.the husband wife problem...probably their problem...for me if the couple doing this no point that i gonna to said objection...is their choice...if using syariah law...it will objection...as long as dont get to other people problem to trouble...the husband and wife wanna on the public...i aslo dont care...! is their problem! we can't force that a husband wife kiss and hug will be arrested...i obey what is islam teaching and Quran said....and i respect others people who is couple,that they wanna kiss or hug on the publics is their choice...i not gonna said u can't do this and that....

Umm Safiya

As-salaamu 'alaykum wa rahmatullaah

Maybe these fataawa will help, inshaa Allaah

Kissing your wife's hand infront of people

Kissing infront of children

Kissing wife infront of other people

no1_outbider

Seing that modesty is a great part of Islam.

As he (SAW) has said 'If you dont have modesty then do you as you like
-to the nearest words- Hadith Qudsi!

Being aware of todays climax and how much inapropiate sexual material or
things that provoke is apparent;as muslim parents one should keep
the bedroom affairs,within their privacy.

Having said that,parents can always interact with one another utmost politely,have a respectful approach to one another,showing their understanding;building a peaceful enviroment at home and serving a good
picture of the marital relationship for their children.

Suffiyan007 · 11:10 PM

i know is Fatwa and prohibited in islam....for husband and wife inapropriate kissing an hugging....! i am agreed! folks...cause i am muslim too...! but we must see the non-muslim way to....to have kissing and hugging in front of parents or relative are normal...people love each other so kiss and hugs...!i dont mix up culture of muslim and non-muslim...! yeah i know doing somethings inapropiate is so shameful..! but some are not shameful...is depend how the people mentality.Is depend how they act or speaks? attitudes of the people are so many...can we condemn them stop it...! or they will kill us! for my believe is we believe in is islamic law and we must respect other people and desicion...they're making the right or wrong choice to have such inappropriate act infront of family, is their problem due to the is between them with God.We cant judges people no this and that...do u think people will listen is a couple that married kiss in public...! i cant used the law of islam to say ehh! u cant kiss or hug....say u will have this act u will be judge by God next time...please they will angry and shock! just let them be....!
i am open-minded to accept everything...inshaallah God will guide the people doing inapropriate act in public....

Souljette

The sister is asking islamically if it's appropriate..she'z not talking about personal opinions of non muslims or muslims...shez talking about Islam and if in Islam it is allowed to show affection to each other and how far as she is curious ..as in my opinion she is new to Islam

no1_outbider

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Originally Posted by Suffiyan007

i know is Fatwa and prohibited in islam....for husband and wife inapropriate kissing an hugging....! i am agreed! folks...cause i am muslim too...! but we must see the non-muslim way to....to have kissing and hugging in front of parents or relative are normal...people love each other so kiss and hugs...!i dont mix up culture of muslim and non-muslim...! yeah i know doing somethings inapropiate is so shameful..! but some are not shameful...is depend how the people mentality.Is depend how they act or speaks? attitudes of the people are so many...can we condemn them stop it...! or they will kill us! for my believe is we believe in is islamic law and we must respect other people and desicion...they're making the right or wrong choice to have such inappropriate act infront of family, is their problem due to the is between them with God.We cant judges people no this and that...do u think people will listen is a couple that married kiss in public...! i cant used the law of islam to say ehh! u cant kiss or hug....say u will have this act u will be judge by God next time...please they will angry and shock! just let them be....!
i am open-minded to accept everything...inshaallah God will guide the people doing inapropriate act in public....

Brother with all due respect,we are obviously aware of the western approaches,which is of no concern to us.

We are probably not in the position to codemn any actions carried out by the west unless one chooses to do dawah to them on a 1:1 basis,however being open minded;accepting theor way,id certainly not the way forward for a ,that is not called being open minded rather that is going against the law and orders of Allah (SWT).

Despite the fact if a Muslim doesnt practise any of the western approaches,
he has still wronged by holding such opinions,for we have been given a set of orders,provided by He (SWT) upon which we are obliged to follow.

May he guide the wrong doers.

sevgi

salams..

i think it depends on the family itsself as much as it duz the cultural make-up of the family.

i myself, cud hug etc my husband next to my bros and sis's..and my mum etc..

but next to my dad..? pwaah..never...see in my family, when the father walks in, we semi-stand..or atleast sit up and check our clothing...he wud love it if we stand..but i think that is unnecessary and ego-provoking..

i think kissing shud be refrained from..even on the cheek.why? i dno. an arm around his wife sounds family-frendly..pleasant even..but holding hands? why wud u even do that..lol..

a good year into the marriage and these wont even occur to the couple:P

w/s

no1_outbider

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Originally Posted by sevgi

salams..

i think it depends on the family itsself as much as it duz the cultural make-up of the family.

i myself, cud hug etc my husband next to my bros and sis's..and my mum etc..

but next to my dad..? pwaah..never...see in my family, when the father walks in, we semi-stand..or atleast sit up and check our clothing...he wud love it if we stand..but i think that is unnecessary and ego-provoking..

i think kissing shud be refrained from..even on the cheek.why? i dno. an arm around his wife sounds family-frendly..pleasant even..but holding hands? why wud u even do that..lol..

a good year into the marriage and these wont even occur to the couple:P

w/s

Sister,the issue isnt about the leniancy or strictness within the family,rather it comes down to the concept of Modesty.

When referring to modesty,it doesnt only apply to clothing,but it is
just as equally applicable in this field.

There are various of Hadith quotes :
Modesty is part of faith, and faith leads to heaven; while vulgarity is part of unfaith, and unfaith leads to hell.

(Related by Al-Bukhari in Al-Adab Al-Mufrad, Ibn Majah and Al-Hakim).

"Among the words people obtained from the First Prophecy are : If you feel no shame, then do as you wish."

[Bukhari]

If a family is open with such affairs,they should hasten to change their approaches,since the growing children have an effect of their affection.

Children now a days tend to grow up and become mature;realise things much early in comparison to the children back in the days,due to the curropted media system and the inappropiate material that are displayed under the banner of entertainement.

Hence parents should avoid showing affection to one another once the children start growing up.

A scene of kissing or hugging,shoulnt be recongnised by a child of young age,because a wide range of inappropiate media is available.

This could lead them into watching inappropiate scenes etc.

Do you understand the point!?

sevgi

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Originally Posted by no1_outbider

Sister,the issue isnt about the leniancy or strictness within the family,rather it comes down to the concept of Modesty.

When referring to modesty,it doesnt only apply to clothing,but it is
just as equally applicable in this field.

There are various of Hadith quotes :
Modesty is part of faith, and faith leads to heaven; while vulgarity is part of unfaith, and unfaith leads to hell.

(Related by Al-Bukhari in Al-Adab Al-Mufrad, Ibn Majah and Al-Hakim).

"Among the words people obtained from the First Prophecy are : If you feel no shame, then do as you wish."

[Bukhari]

If a family is open with such affairs,they should hasten to change their approaches,since the growing children have an effect of their affection.

Children now a days tend to grow up and become mature;realise things much early in comparison to the children back in the days,due to the curropted media system and the inappropiate material that are displayed under the banner of entertainement.

Hence parents should avoid showing affection to one another once the children start growing up.

A scene of kissing or hugging,shoulnt be recongnised by a child of young age,because a wide range of inappropiate media is available.

This could lead them into watching inappropiate scenes etc.

Do you understand the point!?

lol..be modest..dont exclamation mark me please.

and what i was saying was all about modesty...how cud u possibly misconstrue my post so badly?

just coz i didnt use the term modesty..duznt mean my idea was void of it..

thanks for ur fatwa. i "get the point!"

peace.

no1_outbider

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Originally Posted by sevgi

lol..be modest..dont exclamation mark me please.

and what i was saying was all about modesty...how cud u possibly misconstrue my post so badly?

just coz i didnt use the term modesty..duznt mean my idea was void of it..

thanks for ur fatwa. i "get the point!"

peace.

Sorry sister if you feel i have offended you that is not what I intended,please forgive me.

The only reason why I said what I did,is to namely point out regardless of the family stance;it should be avoided

upon which we both agree on.

samirasabir

I beleieve that its very imp for a mother and father to show affection to each other in front of their children, holdind hands , embracing, kiss on cheek is all quite permissable. It shows the children that the parents are in love with one and other and they are being brought up in a loving, warm family!! However culturally in fromt of elders then maybe a little restraint should be shown only so not to cause offence but i don't think there is anything wrong with showing affection as long as the dispalys stay within the realms of modesty and I believe that some people may cause offence by implying that only muslims have the attribute to be modest and non muslims don't.

whitemuslimah

thank you to all who posted in regards to my question. i certainly know what things should be kept for the bedroom etc, i was only asking about particular things and also limited my question to 'in front of family members', as i believe nothing of what i mentioned should be practised outside in front of strangers. i did gather some good poits from your posts bros and sisters. jazakallah.

sangeeta

Totally agree,husband and wife showing affection toward each other is admirable and does prove their contentment with each other.Really a matter of opinion and my friend always holds her hsbands hand in public.They kiss and hug each other,though not lengthy french kiss, and have been like this for all their married life of 19 years.They are muslim and extremely happy.

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sevgi I Will Rot Status: Offline Posts: 1,596 Reputation: 6677 Rep Power: 25 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: On Stage Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Husband&wife: how much affection is it appropriate to show in front of the family - 07-05-2008 salams.. i think it depends on the family itsself as much as it duz the cultural make-up of the family. i myself, cud hug etc my husband next to my bros and sis's..and my mum etc.. but next to my dad..? pwaah..never...see in my family, when the father walks in, we semi-stand..or atleast sit up and check our clothing...he wud love it if we stand..but i think that is unnecessary and ego-provoking.. i think kissing shud be refrained from..even on the cheek.why? i dno. an arm around his wife sounds family-frendly..pleasant even..but holding hands? why wud u even do that..lol.. a good year into the marriage and these wont even occur to the couple:P w/s __________________ O my soul! If you do not wish to be foolish in that way, give in God's name, take in God's name, begin in God's name, and act in God's name.

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samirasabir Limited Member Status: Offline Posts: 10 Reputation: 4 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Feb 2008 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Husband&wife: how much affection is it appropriate to show in front of the family - 07-05-2008 I beleieve that its very imp for a mother and father to show affection to each other in front of their children, holdind hands , embracing, kiss on cheek is all quite permissable. It shows the children that the parents are in love with one and other and they are being brought up in a loving, warm family!! However culturally in fromt of elders then maybe a little restraint should be shown only so not to cause offence but i don't think there is anything wrong with showing affection as long as the dispalys stay within the realms of modesty and I believe that some people may cause offence by implying that only muslims have the attribute to be modest and non muslims don't.

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whitemuslimah Full Member Status: Offline Posts: 61 Reputation: 118 Rep Power: 16 Join Date: May 2006 Location: England Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Husband&wife: how much affection is it appropriate to show in front of the family - 07-05-2008 thank you to all who posted in regards to my question. i certainly know what things should be kept for the bedroom etc, i was only asking about particular things and also limited my question to 'in front of family members', as i believe nothing of what i mentioned should be practised outside in front of strangers. i did gather some good poits from your posts bros and sisters. jazakallah.

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sangeeta Limited Member Status: Offline Posts: 32 Reputation: 40 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Aug 2008 Gender: Way of Life: Undisclosed	Re: Husband&wife: how much affection is it appropriate to show in front of the family - 08-07-2008 Totally agree,husband and wife showing affection toward each other is admirable and does prove their contentment with each other.Really a matter of opinion and my friend always holds her hsbands hand in public.They kiss and hug each other,though not lengthy french kiss, and have been like this for all their married life of 19 years.They are muslim and extremely happy.