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Default Re: Ashamed young man looking for repentance - 07-04-2008

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look sister serene just like you asked me not to reply to your posts and i havent til now i would much appreciate if you did the same.

open your eyes use those brain cells inside your brain....
your name was not mentioned nor were you even brough up in the question... if you could answer my question then contribute with knowledge is not then i dont want to hear it, but somehow you always have something to say to someone so use your own advice IF YOU HAVE NOTHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO SAY TO NO ONE then i suggest you zip it.

i cannot and will not tolerate you simple as so you my dear are on ignore!!!!
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sister eeman, sister serene already addressed the question as to who her original statement was directed towards, in which she answered, “generally.” now, unless i missed something, or she directed a comment towards you that was below my level of consciousness, no where does she say that you are the sole beneficiary of her comment. your lack of tolerance toward her is disheartening, sister. i see nothing wrong with someone always having something to say, & you may think i have no idea the context of your tiff with serene, but i lurk these boards daily, i see what is said by every party, & i know how the both of you go about engaging in variants of conversation. rather than continue to sling mud, why not work towards a resolve. simply ignoring sister serene does nothing to abate the hostility between the two of you. i'm not taking sides, not in the slightest, but sister eeman, seeing as how sister serene's comment wasn't directed towards you, yet you've decided to take it as such, go off on a proverbial tantrum, which ultimately lead to you ignoring her, i can't particularly say you're in the right. but, i also can't say you're in the wrong. but, i can say that there's a better course of action in which both of you can either get closure & understandably speak no more to each other, or even resolve whatever petty conflict has arisen & created the schism between the two of you. there's many more significant matters at hand than a sophomoric rivalry between the two of you & one of you'd be able to realize this simple fact & act accordingly. as is, insha'allah, sister eeman, you'll in some way work with sister serene to clear up any infantile issues between the two of you. lastly, all of this is meant with the utmost respect, as i solely wish to see tolerance amongst the users of this forum, rather than insipid intolerance.

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Assalamu Alaykum,

Just a kind note to all, let us stay on topic Insha'Allah, also let's not make personal attacks against one another and please do not use any offensive language on the forums.

JazakAllah Khayr and back on topic please

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salam

i apologize, brother abdul baari, but i felt compelled to address various points that had arisen betwixt all that was being said back & forth between various users. i've said what i've intended to say & will say nothing more on the matter. & insha'allah, brother yasin's questions will be answered, considering the previous posts by sister serene did not clear up the matter & ease his mind.

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sister eeman, sister serene already addressed the question as to who her original statement was directed towards, in which she answered, “generally.” now, unless i missed something, or she directed a comment towards you that was below my level of consciousness, no where does she say that you are the sole beneficiary of her comment. your lack of tolerance toward her is disheartening, sister. i see nothing wrong with someone always having something to say, & you may think i have no idea the context of your tiff with serene, but i lurk these boards daily, i see what is said by every party, & i know how the both of you go about engaging in variants of conversation. rather than continue to sling mud, why not work towards a resolve. simply ignoring sister serene does nothing to abate the hostility between the two of you. i'm not taking sides, not in the slightest, but sister eeman, seeing as how sister serene's comment wasn't directed towards you, yet you've decided to take it as such, go off on a proverbial tantrum, which ultimately lead to you ignoring her, i can't particularly say you're in the right. but, i also can't say you're in the wrong. but, i can say that there's a better course of action in which both of you can either get closure & understandably speak no more to each other, or even resolve whatever petty conflict has arisen & created the schism between the two of you. there's many more significant matters at hand than a sophomoric rivalry between the two of you & one of you'd be able to realize this simple fact & act accordingly. as is, insha'allah, sister eeman, you'll in some way work with sister serene to clear up any infantile issues between the two of you. lastly, all of this is meant with the utmost respect, as i solely wish to see tolerance amongst the users of this forum, rather than insipid intolerance.

wasallam

Dear brother honestly jazak'Allah khair from the bottom of my heart, thank you i mean that, but sister serene simply made it clear to me never to reply to her posts through a harsh message and i am inclined not to, and do as she asked, i have nothig against her but my simple wishes were that i'd expect the same from her. if you leave someone alone no one else has the right to bicker at you, and no it was not general, sister serene was directing that at me. since accordingto her i never have anything constructive to say. fair enough her views but its best if she keeps them to herself.
   
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Default Re: Ashamed young man looking for repentance - 07-05-2008

This could be a cause of depression. You do things like this for no reason. If your under too much stress. I was a victim of this too but Alhamdulillah i have recovered. More worse if you tell your family and they dont believe.
   
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Dear brother honestly jazak'Allah khair from the bottom of my heart, thank you i mean that, but sister serene simply made it clear to me never to reply to her posts through a harsh message and i am inclined not to, and do as she asked, i have nothig against her but my simple wishes were that i'd expect the same from her. if you leave someone alone no one else has the right to bicker at you, and no it was not general, sister serene was directing that at me. since accordingto her i never have anything constructive to say. fair enough her views but its best if she keeps them to herself.


My post was general, not intended at anyone. I'm sorry if you feel it offended you.
   
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can i ask something... i have heard so many tmes that if you have photos in the housethen angels dont enter the house if you have a dog in the house then angels dont enter the house...

now what i dont understand is this... who records every action every thought every deed or every word we utter or think? In th Qur'an it states angels and also how they are always with us to record. now so does that mean that if a person is at home who has a dog in the house and photos those angels wont come to record his doings and actions cos they cant come in the house?
asalam alaikum wr wb,

The angels assigned for recording our deeds are/have to be with us all the time. If they leave us due to a dog being present, they wouldn't be able to record care/abuse of the animal in the person's care. Therefore these angels do not enter a house separately depending on whether there's a dog there or not, but are with us at all times. The angels who 'enter' houses maybe those who bring Allah's blessings, barakah or to witness the worship of Allah subhana wa ta'ala? Sorry, I do not know details but angels have ranks and are assigned to different tasks by Allah swt.

wa alaikum asalam wr wb

continuing about keeping dogs in the house...

There is nothing wrong with bringing a dog into the house if it is ill/injured to give it the best care possible if it is not possible elsewhere because in Islam necessity dictates exceptions as long as you do not trangress the limits. There's a hadith about a prostitute who was forgiven for showing mercy to a dog in distress and caring for it in her home.


It is keeping a dog as a pet in the home that is prohibited. Dog saliva is najis and one is not able to tell where it might have come in contact with. It is not logical that a muslim should be conscious of cleanliness at all time and purify himself before prayer and then let a dog roam around the place at the same time.


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can i ask something... i have heard so many tmes that if you have photos in the housethen angels dont enter the house if you have a dog in the house then angels dont enter the house...

now what i dont understand is this... who records every action every thought every deed or every word we utter or think? In th Qur'an it states angels and also how they are always with us to record. now so does that mean that if a person is at home who has a dog in the house and photos those angels wont come to record his doings and actions cos they cant come in the house?
Selam aleykum we rahmetallahu, sister Eeman

I will try to explain how I have understood the matter, note though I don't have the qualifications to answer this with proof and such, but thought it would be better to share my personal understanding rather than leaving you there hanging. InshaAllah I'm doing the right thing and if someone has got proof, or further read for you, they will bring them forth, bi'idhnillah.


As you know, there are a great number of angels and of all sorts. The hadith is used in general sense, that no barakah will be in the house were a dog is, which angels bring (barakah) when entering a Muslim house.

"That is a house that is robbed of the angels blessed presence, protection and dua. And when Angels are not there, most likely devils and jinns will find refuge." [source] "Raqeeb and Ateed - the two angels on the right and left shoulder of every person, recording their good and bad deeds are always with us." [source]

They are not something you "summon" when doing something good, as in the sense that angels come to bless.
They (the Kiraman Katibeen, "The Noble Writers"; Raqeeb and Ateed) are always present, so you must see them as exceptions for this hadith.


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can i ask something... i have heard so many tmes that if you have photos in the housethen angels dont enter the house if you have a dog in the house then angels dont enter the house...
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Ibn 'Abbas, may Allah be pleased with them, reported:
Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog or a picture.

Hadith number in Sahih Muslim [Arabic only]:
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Furthermore, the question on the permissibility of accommodating dogs whose sole intent is to incite fun & pleasure is answered outright & forthwith by Kamal Badr, a scholar of Islam. “The basic rule in Islam is the permissibility of keeping dogs for hunting and guarding. Still, the exception to the rule is: excessiveness must be avoided as much as possible. The care and concern for human beings should take higher priority over the care of animals, and the reward for that is greater” (Dogs in the House, Reading Islam.com).

With that being said, it warrants housing dogs who're not being kept for purposes other than hunting, farming, protection, &c. if the care given unto them is rationed & prioritized.
To add to this great post, also for example for the blind, deaf, person on a wheelchair or someone suffering from other kinds of illness in which a dog can bring much help, is allowed, inshaAllah. [source]
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