LI Islamic Forum  
 
Powered by: MuslimPages
Add your business
 


Notices
Advice & Support Seek advice for simple problems from fellow members. Help and console each other during times of trial.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old
  (#1 (permalink))
AnonymousGender
 
AnonymousGender's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 144
Reputation: 2082
Rep Power: 18
AnonymousGender has a reputation beyond reputeAnonymousGender has a reputation beyond reputeAnonymousGender has a reputation beyond reputeAnonymousGender has a reputation beyond reputeAnonymousGender has a reputation beyond reputeAnonymousGender has a reputation beyond reputeAnonymousGender has a reputation beyond reputeAnonymousGender has a reputation beyond reputeAnonymousGender has a reputation beyond reputeAnonymousGender has a reputation beyond reputeAnonymousGender has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: May 2006
Gender:
Default Should I? - 10-12-2008

Well this is whats up. My parents are currently on vacation, I am home with my older siblings. My parents forbid me to visit my big sis, who doesnt practise her deen. They think if I visit her she'll "put me on the market" as they put it. That means, "she will introduce me to her lifestyle and I will become like her". I have never been the kind of a person who follows the crowd. I know right from wrong and my parents know that. They have disowned her, she lives alone with her 2 kids. I am those kids auntie, I havent seen them for 2 years. My plan is to leave for a week and visit my sis.

awhile back I tried to ask my parents if I could go.

My father says "If you go to her house, it's like you have buried me alive.

My mom says "Dont visit her, If I die and u are there I will die unhappy".

I dont understand why my parents are doing this. I love my sister, She's never practised but shes still my sister.

If they are gone, and I go visit my sis, Will I go to Hell? I wont tell them I went?
__________________
Anonymous account
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#2 (permalink))
Mikayeel
 
Mikayeel's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 1,638
Reputation: 14940
Rep Power: 25
Mikayeel has a reputation beyond reputeMikayeel has a reputation beyond reputeMikayeel has a reputation beyond reputeMikayeel has a reputation beyond reputeMikayeel has a reputation beyond reputeMikayeel has a reputation beyond reputeMikayeel has a reputation beyond reputeMikayeel has a reputation beyond reputeMikayeel has a reputation beyond reputeMikayeel has a reputation beyond reputeMikayeel has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Cardiff, Wales
Gender:Brother In Islam
Way of Life: Muslim
Default Re: Should I? - 10-12-2008

Thread approved
__________________
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#3 (permalink))
J.U.N.I.O.R
J_to tha_U_N_I_O_R
 
J.U.N.I.O.R's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 1,148
Reputation: 5677
Rep Power: 22
J.U.N.I.O.R has a reputation beyond reputeJ.U.N.I.O.R has a reputation beyond reputeJ.U.N.I.O.R has a reputation beyond reputeJ.U.N.I.O.R has a reputation beyond reputeJ.U.N.I.O.R has a reputation beyond reputeJ.U.N.I.O.R has a reputation beyond reputeJ.U.N.I.O.R has a reputation beyond reputeJ.U.N.I.O.R has a reputation beyond reputeJ.U.N.I.O.R has a reputation beyond reputeJ.U.N.I.O.R has a reputation beyond reputeJ.U.N.I.O.R has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: .
Gender:Brother In Islam
Way of Life: Muslim
Default Re: Should I? - 10-12-2008

its Simple,just listen to your parents

you sound like a mature person mashallah what you could do as an alternative is persuade your parents(saw) that if she is isolated who will give her dawah??, so it is wajjib for you to visit her and give her advice and the prophet said do not cut off the relationship of close ones and relatives

After you say the above to them they might change their mind...and allah knows best
__________________
always on the go
steady and slow
switched from the fast lane and now.. im more settled
i insanely proved my mettle
the way i battled to the end from the start
i shouldve been called braveheart
thats what it seemed
but silaahi ad deen
so in retrospect i should be called sallahudeen
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#4 (permalink))
SixTen
LI Oldtimer
 
SixTen's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 554
Reputation: 3379
Rep Power: 7
SixTen has a reputation beyond reputeSixTen has a reputation beyond reputeSixTen has a reputation beyond reputeSixTen has a reputation beyond reputeSixTen has a reputation beyond reputeSixTen has a reputation beyond reputeSixTen has a reputation beyond reputeSixTen has a reputation beyond reputeSixTen has a reputation beyond reputeSixTen has a reputation beyond reputeSixTen has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: 3rd Rock from the Sun
Gender:Brother In Islam
Way of Life: Muslim
Default Re: Should I? - 10-12-2008

Hmm, as important as I think it is that you should be able to see your sister, do not do it against your parents will. If it is really important, sway their stance on the situation before you act.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#5 (permalink))
:: Afifa ::
LI Oldtimer
 
:: Afifa ::'s Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 792
Reputation: 2646
Rep Power: 10
:: Afifa :: has a reputation beyond repute:: Afifa :: has a reputation beyond repute:: Afifa :: has a reputation beyond repute:: Afifa :: has a reputation beyond repute:: Afifa :: has a reputation beyond repute:: Afifa :: has a reputation beyond repute:: Afifa :: has a reputation beyond repute:: Afifa :: has a reputation beyond repute:: Afifa :: has a reputation beyond repute:: Afifa :: has a reputation beyond repute:: Afifa :: has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Nov 2007
Gender:Sister In Islam
Way of Life: Muslim
Default Re: Should I? - 10-12-2008


how about convincing your parents to help your sister some onto the staright path of islam?
__________________
..Truly, the life of this world is nothing
but a [quick passing] enjoyment, and verily,
the Hereafter that is the home
that will remain forever.
(40:39)
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#6 (permalink))
BNDGR
LI Senior Member
 
BNDGR's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 152
Reputation: 668
Rep Power: 2
BNDGR is a splendid one to beholdBNDGR is a splendid one to beholdBNDGR is a splendid one to beholdBNDGR is a splendid one to beholdBNDGR is a splendid one to beholdBNDGR is a splendid one to behold
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: beautiful Cali
Gender:Sister In Islam
Way of Life: Muslim
Default Re: Should I? - 10-12-2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by x-Afifa-x View Post

how about convincing your parents to help your sister some onto the staright path of islam?
Asalam alaikum,
I agree with you, cutting her off from the family is not going to help her, inshaAllah if your family embraces her once again and teaches her in small subtle ways and by thier own actions this might help, she would have positive influences in her life and the support she needs to find her way back.
I feel for your situation, you love your sister no matter what, she is still your sister.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#7 (permalink))
ayan333
LI Oldskool
 
ayan333's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 1,076
Reputation: 2460
Rep Power: 7
ayan333 has a reputation beyond reputeayan333 has a reputation beyond reputeayan333 has a reputation beyond reputeayan333 has a reputation beyond reputeayan333 has a reputation beyond reputeayan333 has a reputation beyond reputeayan333 has a reputation beyond reputeayan333 has a reputation beyond reputeayan333 has a reputation beyond reputeayan333 has a reputation beyond reputeayan333 has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Atlanta
Gender:Sister In Islam
Way of Life: Muslim
Default Re: Should I? - 10-12-2008



wow..looks like ur in a tight situation...

wut i would do if i was in ur situation i sthat i would give ur sis a call..let he rno wuts up n how u wana see her...

i think that will be best for all of yall

maybe u should also let ur sis know how u feel,maybe this can be wut help ur parenst her to communicate again InshALLAH..or is it too late for that

sorry im not good with advice,InshALLAH I hope it helps
__________________
“When you pass by the meadows of Paradise indulge freely in it.”
They said: “O Messeneger of Allah (saw) , what are the meadows of Paradise?”
He replied: “The circles of knowlegde.”
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#8 (permalink))
AnonymousGender
 
AnonymousGender's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 144
Reputation: 2082
Rep Power: 18
AnonymousGender has a reputation beyond reputeAnonymousGender has a reputation beyond reputeAnonymousGender has a reputation beyond reputeAnonymousGender has a reputation beyond reputeAnonymousGender has a reputation beyond reputeAnonymousGender has a reputation beyond reputeAnonymousGender has a reputation beyond reputeAnonymousGender has a reputation beyond reputeAnonymousGender has a reputation beyond reputeAnonymousGender has a reputation beyond reputeAnonymousGender has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: May 2006
Gender:
Unhappy Re: Should I? - 10-12-2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahmedjunior View Post
its Simple,just listen to your parents

you sound like a mature person mashallah what you could do as an alternative is persuade your parents(saw) that if she is isolated who will give her dawah??, so it is wajjib for you to visit her and give her advice and the prophet said do not cut off the relationship of close ones and relatives

After you say the above to them they might change their mind...and allah knows best
I already have countless times. I tried to remind them that she needs dawah. I did. If I tell them over the fone they will flip & get upset. Like I said they're not home at the mo.

My father can read me like a book. Before they left he took me aside and looked me straight in the eye and warned me not to go and see my sis.That it'll be like as though he got news that I got murdered. *in his own wrds*My sis never did anything wrong to me. She's my blood sister and I will always love her. I know shes done lots of bad things but still we are her family. What good will this bring?

I have listened to my parents for years, they are never going to let me see her. The only way I see it happening is behind their back. Wouldn't lying be allowed in this case?..sad to resort to this but I got no other choice.
__________________
Anonymous account
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#9 (permalink))
Fighting4Iman
Fighting4Emaan
 
Fighting4Iman's Avatar
 
Status: Online
Posts: 16,015
Reputation: 48512
Rep Power: 93
Fighting4Iman has a reputation beyond reputeFighting4Iman has a reputation beyond reputeFighting4Iman has a reputation beyond reputeFighting4Iman has a reputation beyond reputeFighting4Iman has a reputation beyond reputeFighting4Iman has a reputation beyond reputeFighting4Iman has a reputation beyond reputeFighting4Iman has a reputation beyond reputeFighting4Iman has a reputation beyond reputeFighting4Iman has a reputation beyond reputeFighting4Iman has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Fighting4Emaan
Gender:Brother In Islam
Way of Life: Muslim
Default Re: Should I? - 10-12-2008

do NOT visit your sis!


they are your parents subhanAllaah! dont let emotion cloud your judgement, they are trying to protect you !

your sister has obviously hurt them very much and you will hurt htem too IF you see her AGAINST their objections!

please dont hurt your parents, they are your key to jannah and they are not asking you anything unreasonable or haram!

she may be your sister but they are your parents!
__________________
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#10 (permalink))
FatimaAsSideqah
 
FatimaAsSideqah's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 3,627
Reputation: 10328
Rep Power: 33
FatimaAsSideqah has a reputation beyond reputeFatimaAsSideqah has a reputation beyond reputeFatimaAsSideqah has a reputation beyond reputeFatimaAsSideqah has a reputation beyond reputeFatimaAsSideqah has a reputation beyond reputeFatimaAsSideqah has a reputation beyond reputeFatimaAsSideqah has a reputation beyond reputeFatimaAsSideqah has a reputation beyond reputeFatimaAsSideqah has a reputation beyond reputeFatimaAsSideqah has a reputation beyond reputeFatimaAsSideqah has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Journey to Akhirah, Insha'Allah!
Gender:Sister In Islam
Way of Life: Muslim
Default Re: Should I? - 10-12-2008

Rights of Parents are right after Rights of Allah Taala. We have recommended and been ordered to obey parents. Something common all religions and all cultures, all generations all ages. Something that will last forever. All followers were like this and knew this. Parents have very high ranks and status in Islam by Allah Taala. Which is why we have been ordered to treat them with great respect. All ordered us to obey our parents. Considered al mahroof, to do something good, for you. But if they ask you to do something bad then you don’t have to listen to them. BUT DON’T DISOBEY YOUR PARENTS. Some parents abuse thier rights and make them i.e. their children to do things that are not in their best i.e. their own personal reasons. In general if parents ask you to do something good. Then it is an obligation for us to do so.
__________________

<img src=http://www.islamicboard.com/signaturepics/sigpic4744_4.gif border=0 alt= />
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#11 (permalink))
alcurad
LI Senior Member
 
alcurad's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 343
Reputation: 2178
Rep Power: 22
alcurad has a reputation beyond reputealcurad has a reputation beyond reputealcurad has a reputation beyond reputealcurad has a reputation beyond reputealcurad has a reputation beyond reputealcurad has a reputation beyond reputealcurad has a reputation beyond reputealcurad has a reputation beyond reputealcurad has a reputation beyond reputealcurad has a reputation beyond reputealcurad has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Indiana
Gender:Brother In Islam
Way of Life: Muslim
Default Re: Should I? - 10-12-2008

what your parents are doing is wrong, for they are exacerbating the situation by completely cutting her off, and the prophet says: "There is no obedience to anyone in disobedience to Allah, verily obedience is in that which is correct".
call them and tell them you're going to see her, and then go. in the end, do what you think is correct, blindly listening to your parents is not going to help in any way.
__________________
إن الإستبداد يصل بالناس إلى حد تحويل ميولهم الطبيعية من طلب الترفّع ( الرفعة والعلو ) إلى طلب التسفّل، كالأجهر حين يرى النور
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#12 (permalink))
Jawharah
LI's Fishter
 
Jawharah's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 5,224
Reputation: 36570
Rep Power: 73
Jawharah has a reputation beyond reputeJawharah has a reputation beyond reputeJawharah has a reputation beyond reputeJawharah has a reputation beyond reputeJawharah has a reputation beyond reputeJawharah has a reputation beyond reputeJawharah has a reputation beyond reputeJawharah has a reputation beyond reputeJawharah has a reputation beyond reputeJawharah has a reputation beyond reputeJawharah has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Along the Coast
Gender:Sister In Islam
Way of Life: Muslim
Default Re: Should I? - 10-12-2008



As much as it seems what they're doing is the right way to go about it, I don't think it would be wise to betray their trust and just go to her place. I don't think we should judge them as being irrational or anything, because maybe there is a reason why they are doing this, and they just don't want to discuss that reason for Allah knows why. It's sad that her children don't have your parents in their life though. I hope they change their mind on this, cuz it can really hurt kids that their grandparents aren't there for them...

Is it possible for you to speak to her on the phone or e-mail her? Would they allow that? Perhaps after a while of speaking to her and seeing that you can handle communicating with her without becoming like her, they may become more inclined to letting you visit her.
__________________
I'd rather fight for what I believe in, then be loved for being silent on something I totally disagree with...
And if I offend you in the process, I'm sorry. Really.


   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#13 (permalink))
Ameena*
Kenyadigit?
 
Ameena*'s Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 1,349
Reputation: 7740
Rep Power: 19
Ameena* has a reputation beyond reputeAmeena* has a reputation beyond reputeAmeena* has a reputation beyond reputeAmeena* has a reputation beyond reputeAmeena* has a reputation beyond reputeAmeena* has a reputation beyond reputeAmeena* has a reputation beyond reputeAmeena* has a reputation beyond reputeAmeena* has a reputation beyond reputeAmeena* has a reputation beyond reputeAmeena* has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Jul 2007
Gender:Sister In Islam
Way of Life: Muslim
Default Re: Should I? - 10-12-2008

People also aren't mentioning the fact that cutting ties with your family is haraam too! Maybe you should mention to them that what they're doing is haraam, and it's hypocritical for them to do so something haraam and then claim that your sister is leading a haraam lifestyle. If you show them that you're capable of not following her footsteps, then inshaaAllaah they might allow you to see her. Make du'a for both your parents and sister inshaaAllaah.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#14 (permalink))
*Marwah
Limited Member
 
*Marwah's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 47
Reputation: 60
Rep Power: 0
*Marwah will become famous soon enough
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: birmingham
Gender:Sister In Islam
Way of Life: Muslim
Default Re: Should I? - 10-12-2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by alcurad View Post
what your parents are doing is wrong, for they are exacerbating the situation by completely cutting her off, and the prophet says: "There is no obedience to anyone in disobedience to Allah, verily obedience is in that which is correct".
call them and tell them you're going to see her, and then go. in the end, do what you think is correct, blindly listening to your parents is not going to help in any way.


that is right
its not nice
someone can change one day
and ur sister might think one day '' what have i done wrong ''
and even its not nice when they say she might change ur life...
they have to give her a chance to change her life
someone has to give her advice
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#15 (permalink))
YusufNoor
"Heretic" i reckon..
 
YusufNoor's Avatar
 
Status: Offline
Posts: 730
Reputation: 4284
Rep Power: 18
YusufNoor has a reputation beyond reputeYusufNoor has a reputation beyond reputeYusufNoor has a reputation beyond reputeYusufNoor has a reputation beyond reputeYusufNoor has a reputation beyond reputeYusufNoor has a reputation beyond reputeYusufNoor has a reputation beyond reputeYusufNoor has a reputation beyond reputeYusufNoor has a reputation beyond reputeYusufNoor has a reputation beyond reputeYusufNoor has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Tukwila, WA
Gender:Brother In Islam
Way of Life: Muslim
Default Re: Should I? - 10-12-2008




ask your sister to come visit you! NOT for like a week, but just a visit. give her some nasee'hah.

technically, you wouldn't have disobeyed...

IF you go[and i'm NOT saying that you should], just a short visit; going for a WHOLE WEEK is not necessary AND it would be disobeying your parents....

just personal opinions...

__________________
Had the non-believer known of all the Mercy which is in the Hands of Allah, he would not lose hope of entering Paradise, and had the believer known of all the punishment which is present with Allah, he would not consider himself safe from the Hell-Fire
http://www.muftimenk.co.za/Downloads.html
   
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.0.0
vBulletin Skin developed by: vBStyles.com

Page generated in 0.27205 seconds with 10 queries