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| Hier stehe ich Status: Offline Posts: 5,781 Reputation: 39693 Rep Power: 78 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: England Gender: Way of Life: Christian | Dear artichokeforest
__________________I have no answers for you. As a non-Muslim I am trying to fathom the Islamic way of thinking myself - finding it extremely puzzling at times. But as a non-Muslim I may have an understanding of the kind of relationship you had. Like most Western relationship, my husband and I started out like that: meeting each other, getting to know each other and falling in love. It would never have occured to me that somebody else may have a say in who I was to marry! My heart goes out to you! I don't know what will become of your boyfriend and his marriage, but I cannot see good come out of it! This may sound harsh, but if he has gone to marry a stranger to please his parents, perhaps his love for you wasn't as strong as you both hoped? Perhaps you should move on. Blessings,
Peace glo "Peace I leave with you. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid." "Lakum deenukum waliya deen" |
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| Limited Member Status: Offline Posts: 10 Reputation: 8 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Apr 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Maybe you should talk to his family and try and convince them that you truly love him. Geez, I wish I could have talked with them. He has never even told them about me, becuase dating is considered haram. He says his family is even very liberal for Sudanese society. I think alot of muslim immigrant men (especially) have trouble sticking to islamic way o life, while living in the west. It is a double standard. I thought about attending the wedding, but realized it would only cause me unnecessary heart-ache and grief. I wish there was someone there though, who could represent my case. I ahte the idea that all of this will go down, with Anis being the only one, who knows the real truth. Probably he will never even tell his wife or family. Sometimes i think it is them who do not know the real him. but then I wonder if it was me, actually, who did not know the real him..... Thanks for all your words of wisdom and advice. Greatly appreciated... |
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| Full Member Status: Offline Posts: 207 Reputation: 186 Rep Power: 24 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Malden, MA, USA Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | I have known and known of several women in your situation.And you know the truth- that you honestly gave love to a man who could not in good faith go through with your plans. Pray, comfort yourself, spend time with friends and family. There are good men out there who are not committed, who are aching for a wonderful woman like you. Go out there and get you one!
__________________ "Hunger allows no choice To the citizen or the police; We must love one another or die." September 1, 1939 - W.H. Auden |
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| Jewel of IB Status: Offline Posts: 6,761 Reputation: 75130 Rep Power: 130 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: On Land Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | First of all, you have reverted, correct? Alhamdulillah, and welcome to Islam sister dear. No offense, but I think it would be best for you to forget about this brother. He is married, and despite that he said he loved you, he also had contact with his cousin. He hasn't met her in 9 years, but thats not the point! He has met her, and knows her personality. Maybe its forced, but maybe he is happy with it. You can't judge that. He didn't tell you that he was getting married, so there are other things he may not be telling you, such as him truly loving his cousin. He too knows that it will be a slap on your face to tell you how wonderful his cousin may be. Quote:
Anyways, like you yourself have stated and accepted, physical contact with the opposite gender cannot occur. It is a sin, a form of zina. Forget about this dude, and move on. Spend your time learning Islam, Quran, how to pray, etc. | |
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| Limited Member Status: Offline Posts: 9 Reputation: 26 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Jul 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Assalamu alaikum sister, I am so sorry that you had to experience this situation. I know very well what you have been through and are going through at this moment, and it is hard but it will get easier insha Allah. when I was new to Islam a brother that a I thought was so pious asked me to marry him, it was arranged to be secret, and he would make his parents understand and accept it after we graduated (so naive I was). For years I believed him, and when I became pregnant he began to show who he really was and the lies started to unravel. He told me to have an abortion or he would kill himself, the whole time I was pregnant he was never there for me, I barely saw him, and he never even helped me get anything for the baby. His parents found out when I was 8 months pregnant, they said that I was not culturally compatible and that our marriage was against Islam because they did not agree...and that my son would never know his father, and then his rare visits and half-hearted promises to be there when our son was born and be with us after stopped. I called the sheikh, who said he should be there, and I called him and asked him to come while I was in labor. I begged him to be part of our sons life, and couldn't understand how when they are so cultural and come from a culture that valued family so much could just ignore my son and I. He never showed and I gave birth alone and attempted to say the adhan in my sons ear in English. My son was born early due to the stress I was under and when I brought him home from the hospital it was so sad, I didn't have clothes or anything. To this day he doesn't support or see my son. He came around a few times and said he loved us and tried to get back with me, I soon learned that he was engaged to his cousin and had been for the whole 3 years that this was going on. He saw our son and I and said he loved us etc and promised me he wouldn't marry her and then flew off to get married in the home country of his parents. Of course he married her and my son and I meant nothing to him, we never did, it just took getting slapped in the face like that for me to realize it. I know sooo many women, converts and non converts, that this has happened to and for awhile I was so angry and so far from Islam. But this is not Islam, and there are some very good Muslim brothers out there. I eventually found my way back and my iman increased and I was closer to my deen alhumdulilah. I met a good man through my wali and when I accepted his proposal last week there was nothing kept secret, his family is not happy but they know, and insha Allah they will be happier about it in the future. The best advice I can give you is when your ready to get married follow the guidelines of Islam and you cant go wrong. You will find a good man who will make you happy insha Allah. I know its really hard to accept and impossible to understand, for a long time I kept saying why would he marry her when he loves me, how can this be happening, the concept was so foreign to me. Your sitting there helpless and he is getting married across the sea. He told me that same things that Anis told you, that it didn't mean that he didn't love me and that he would never love another woman like he loved me, etc. Eventually I just had to accept it for what it was, he didn't love me and his intention was not to please Allah but himself. I hope that you will accept it and move on faster than I did insha Allah, its really the best thing you can do. Its different when he is a Muslim man that lives to please Allah, and is guided by Islam, when he is a true example for you, and wants to make sure that you are given the rights that Islam has granted you, I promise. If you ever need to talk I would be happy to listen, and I'm moving to Canada in a few weeks insha Allah so we will have lots to talk about! |
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| Full Member Status: Offline Posts: 444 Reputation: 259 Rep Power: 26 Join Date: Dec 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Your relationship, as appears from your story, was not one built up for the sake of Allah; rather you happened to be in a Western Style love with each other for the purpose of sex. But at the same time the boy has cheated you with the carrot of marriage. Now you have to repent sincerely for the adultery you have done with the boy and seek God's forgiveness with a firmly settled mind that you will never commit any adultery any more in futre. Then seek Allah's help with prayer and patience, as Allah says: "O ye who believe! seek help with patient perseverance and prayer; for Allah is with those who patiently persevere." 002.153
__________________ And set not up with Allah any other god, lest thou be cast into hell, reproved, abandoned.[17:39] |
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| IB Oldtimer Status: Offline Posts: 2,898 Reputation: 3326 Rep Power: 30 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New York Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
so true, and if you think about it when you accept something, you're free from worrying about it all of the time. | |
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| Seeking Jannah Status: Offline Posts: 50 Reputation: 18 Rep Power: 29 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Toronto Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Sister, please research Islam on your own and discover its beauty. Insha'allah the love for islam will enter your heart, and you will become a strong and steadfast Muslim who will be blessed with the best husband ever. INSHA'allah. |
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