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| LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 124 Reputation: 1974 Rep Power: 17 Join Date: Apr 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
Volumn 002, Book 023, Hadith Number 452. ----------------------------------------- Narated By Ibn 'Umar : The Prophet (sallallahu 'alayhi wasallam) looked at the people of the well (the well in which the bodies of the pagans killed in the Battle of Badr were thrown) and said, "Have you found true what your Lord promised you?" Somebody said to him, "You are addressing dead people." He replied, "You do not hear better than they but they cannot reply." The only apparent evidence given to show that the dead cannot hear from the Quran has the following interpretation from Tafsir Ibn Kathir: The Command to put One's Trust in Allah and to convey the Message ﴿فَتَوَكَّلْ عَلَى اللَّهِ﴾ (So, put your trust in Allah;) in all your affairs, and convey the Message of your Lord. ﴿إِنَّكَ عَلَى الْحَقِّ الْمُبِينِ﴾ (surely, you are on manifest truth.) meaning, you are following manifest truth, even though you are opposed by those who oppose you because they are doomed. The Word of your Lord has been justified against them, so that they will not believe even if all the signs are brought to them. Allah says: ﴿إِنَّكَ لاَ تُسْمِعُ الْمَوْتَى﴾ (Verily, you cannot make the dead to hear) meaning, you cannot cause them to hear anything that will benefit them. The same applies to those over whose hearts is a veil and in whose ears is deafness of disbelief. Allah says: ﴿وَلاَ تُسْمِعُ الصُّمَّ الدُّعَآءَ إِذَا وَلَّوْاْ مُدْبِرِينَ﴾ وَمَآ أَنتَ بِهَادِى الْعُمْىِ عَن ضَلَـلَتِهِمْ إِن تُسْمِعُ إِلاَّ مَن يُؤْمِنُ بِـئَايَـتِنَا فَهُم مُّسْلِمُونَ-﴾ (nor can you make the deaf to hear the call, when they flee, turning their backs. Nor can you lead the blind out of their error. You can only make to hear those who believe in Our Ayat, so they submit (became Muslims).) meaning, those who have hearing and insight will respond to you, those whose hearing and sight are of benefit to their hearts and who are humble towards Allah and to the Message that comes to them through the mouths of the Messengers, may peace be upon them. The relevant part from the Tafsir for the other ayat: (Verily, Allah makes whom He wills to hear,) means. He guides them to listen to the proof and accept it and adhere it. ﴿وَمَآ أَنتَ بِمُسْمِعٍ مَّن فِى الْقُبُورِ﴾ (but you cannot make hear those who are in graves.) means, `just as the dead cannot benefit from guidance and the call to truth after they have died as disbelievers and ended up in the graves, so too you cannot help these idolators who are decreed to be doomed, and you cannot guide them.' ﴿إِنْ أَنتَ إِلاَّ نَذِيرٌ ﴾ You are only a warner means, all you have to do is to convey the Message and warn them, and Allah leaves astray whomsoever He wills and guides whomsoever He wills. Wassalam. | |
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| Y R U looking here? Status: Offline Posts: 7,405 Reputation: 46363 Rep Power: 78 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In the Rictus of Revenge Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
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http://www.singaporehospice.org.sg/9...rminalcare.htm this however is a matter of (aqeeda) creed, I don't see how an article such as this (sporting one belief or another) can have any sort of impact as far as you are concerned?.. what happens upon death from an atheist's point should come to a halt after the termination of all physiological function, making this the wrong section for you to question in, whether in awe, amusement or mockery! cheers For the skeptic, no amount of proof will be enough, and for the believer, no amount of proof is necessary. Life is just a dream on our way to death ![]() | ||
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| LI Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 2,149 Reputation: 4506 Rep Power: 27 Join Date: Jul 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Atheist | Greetings, What a nice new name you have. I wish you great luck with it. Quote:
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Peace For the skeptic, no amount of proof will be enough, and for the believer, no amount of proof is necessary. Life is just a dream on our way to death ![]() | |||
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| iwannagetmarried.com Status: Offline Posts: 6,584 Reputation: 43491 Rep Power: 82 Join Date: Mar 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
هَلْ جَزَاء الْإِحْسَانِ إِلَّا الْإِحْسَانُ؟ Is there any reward for good other than good? [ar-Rahman: 60] * Official Member of the Poet Crew * O Allah, Lord of Jibril, Mika'il and Israfil, Creator of the heavens and the earth, Knower of the unseen and the seen, You will judge between Your servants concerning that wherein they differ. Guide me with regard to that wherein there is dispute concerning the truth by Your leave, for You guide whomsoever You will to the straight path. Oh Allah, I seek refuge in You lest I misguide others, or I am misguided by others, lest I cause others to err or I am caused to err, lest I abuse others or be abused, and lest I behave foolishly or meet with the foolishness of others. | |
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| LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 124 Reputation: 1974 Rep Power: 17 Join Date: Apr 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
Yep, I realised that, that's why I've edited my post before your post And the funny thing is the next hadith straight after the well one is: Volumn 002, Book 023, Hadith Number 453. ----------------------------------------- Narated By 'Aisha : The Prophet said, "They now realize that what I used to tell them was the truth. "And Allah said, 'Verily! You cannot make the dead to hear (i.e. benefit them, and similarly the disbelievers) nor can you make the deaf hear. (27.80). Which goes to show the verse is just talking about guidance, as also can be seen from Tafsir Ibn Kathir. Wassalam. | |
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