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    Default Does Islam Permit Muslim Men to Rape Their Slave Girls?

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    Bassam Zawadi

    There are those who argue that since Islam permits Muslim men to have sexual intercourse with their slave girls, this then means that they also have the right to rape them.

    This is absurd. The right to have sex with a woman does not necessarily imply that one has the right to rape her as well. To say that a Muslim man has the right to rape his slave girl is like saying that a man has the right to rape his wife; which is not true. Refer to this article.

    Rape in Islam is completely forbidden. See this and this.

    Imam Maalik said:



    الأمر عندنا في الرجل يغتصب المرأة بكراً كانت أو ثيبا : أنها إن كانت حرة : فعليه صداق مثلها , وإن كانت أمَة : فعليه ما نقص من ثمنها ، والعقوبة في ذلك على المغتصب ، ولا عقوبة على المغتصبة في ذلك كله


    In our view the man who rapes a woman, regardless of whether she is a virgin or not, if she is a free woman he must pay a "dowry" like that of her peers, and if she is a slave he must pay whatever has been detracted from her value. The punishment is to be carried out on the rapist and there is no punishment for the woman who has been raped, whatever the case. (Imam Maalik, Al-Muwatta', Volume 2, page 734)


    Imam Al Shaafi'i said:



    وإذا اغتصب الرجل الجارية ثم وطئها بعد الغصب وهو من غير أهل الجهالة أخذت منه الجارية والعقر وأقيم عليه حد الزنا


    "If a man acquires by force a slave-girl, then has sexual intercourse with her after he acquires her by force, and if he is not excused by ignorance, then the slave-girl will be taken from him, he is required to pay the fine, and he will receive the punishment for illegal sexual intercourse." (Imam Al Shaafi'i, Kitaabul Umm, Volume 3, page 253)



    Notice that both of these top classical scholars have stated that a man is to be punished for raping a slave girl. Of course this not our ultimate proof that Islam forbids rape, but this is to show that the early classical scholars surely did not understand Islam to be teaching it.

    In an authentic narration from Sunan Al Bayhaqi, Volume 2, page 363, Hadith no. 18685 we read the following story:

    Abu al-Hussain bin al-Fadhl al-Qatan narrated from Abdullah bin Jaffar bin Darestweh from Yaqub bin Sufyan from al-Hassab bin Rabee from Abdullah bin al-Mubarak from Kahmas from Harun bin Al-Asam who said: Umar bin al-Khatab may Allah be pleased with him sent Khalid bin al-Walid in an army, hence Khalid sent Dharar bin al-Auwzwar in a squadron and they invaded a district belonging to the tribe of Bani Asad. They then captured a pretty bride, Dharar liked her hence he asked his companions to grant her to him and they did so. He then had sexual intercourse with her, when he completed his mission he felt guilty, and went to Khalid and told him about what he did. Khalid said: 'I permit you and made it lawful to you.' He said: 'No not until you write a message to Umar'. (Then they sent a message to Umar) and Umar answered that he (Dharar) should be stoned. By the time Umar's message was delivered, Dharar was dead. (Khalid) said: 'Allah didn't want to disgrace Dharar'




    Notice that Umar ibn Al Khattab (the second caliph) ordered the man who captured the slave girl and had sex with her to be stoned for this crime, for he took the slave girl unjustly.

    Do these critics who raise these arguments know Islam better than Umar ibn al Khattab?


    We anticipate what our opponents might say in response. They will say that the scholars whom I just cited and the story of Umar ibn Al Khattab only refer to someone who raped a slave girl who did not belong to him, however one may rape the slave girl that is his property. Even though the story in Sunan Al Bayhaqi makes it clear that the man had sex with the girl after possessing her, we will accept this response only for the sake of argument.

    It is nonsense to suggest that one could rape the slave girl he possesses because the Prophet (peace be upon him) warned us that we must take good care of those under our authority:

    "There is no person to whom Allaah has given people to take care of, and he fails to take care of them properly, but he will not smell the fragrance of Paradise." (Saheeh Bukhari no. 6731; Saheeh Muslim, no. 142)

    'Umar ibn al-Ahwas (may Allaah be pleased with him) reported that he heard the Messenger of Allaah SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say during his Farewell Pilgrimage:

    "Verily, you have rights over your women, and your women have rights over you. As for your rights over your women, they are that they should not allow anyone to sit on your beds whom you dislike, or allow anyone into your houses whom you dislike. Verily, their rights over you are that you should treat them well with regard to their clothing and food." (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, 1163, and Ibn Maajah, 1851).


    The Prophet (peace be upon him) made it clear that we shouldn't harm slaves:


    Saheeh Bukhari

    Volume 1, Book 2, Number 29

    Narrated Al-Ma'rur: At Ar-Rabadha I met Abu Dhar who was wearing a cloak, and his slave, too, was wearing a similar one. I asked about the reason for it. He replied, "I abused a person by calling his mother with bad names." The Prophet said to me, 'O Abu Dhar! Did you abuse him by calling his mother with bad names You still have some characteristics of ignorance. Your slaves are your brothers and Allah has put them under your command. So whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears. Do not ask them (slaves) to do things beyond their capacity (power) and if you do so, then help them.


    The Prophet (peace be upon him) said that our slaves are like our siblings. Who would rape his own sister?


    The Prophet (peace be upon him) forbade causing physical harm to slaves:


    Saheeh Muslim

    Book 015, Number 4082:

    Hilal b. Yasaf reported that a person got angry and slapped his slave-girl. Thereupon Suwaid b. Muqarrin said to him: You could find no other part (to slap) but the prominent part of her face. See I was one of the seven sons of Muqarrin, and we had but only one slave-girl. The youngest of us slapped her, and Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) commanded us to set her free.

    Book 015, Number 4086

    Abu Mas'ud al-Badri reported: "I was beating my slave with a whip when I heard a voice behind me: Understand, Abu Masud; but I did not recognise the voice due to intense anger. He (Abu Mas'ud) reported: As he came near me (I found) that he was the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) and he was saying: Bear in mind, Abu Mas'ud; bear in mind. Abu Mas'ud. He (Aba Maslad) said: threw the whip from my hand. Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Bear in mind, Abu Mas'ud; verily Allah has more dominance upon you than you have upon your slave. I (then) said: I would never beat my servant in future.


    If the Prophet (peace be upon him) forbade slapping and whipping slaves then it's unthinkable that he would have permitted raping them. It just makes no sense.


    Thus, our argument is as follows:


    - The Prophet (peace be upon him) has prohibited causing harm to and oppressing those under our authority.

    - Rape is causing harm to someone and is considered a form of oppression

    - If the critic says that the Prophet (peace be upon him) made an exception to this general prohibition by allowing one to rape his slave girl, the burden of proof is upon him to show evidence for this exception.

    - If he is not able to show evidence for this exception then we must assume that the Prophet's (peace be upon him) general command is upheld, thus proving that Islam forbids one to rape his slave girl.


    Critics would reply back and say that it's unthinkable that slave girls back then would hae willingly consented to having sex with their Muslim captors who just killed their family members. They would usually point to the specific example of Banu Al-Mustaliq.


    The narration states:


    Sahih al-Bukhari 4138 -Narrated Ibn Muhairiz: I entered the mosque and saw Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri and sat beside him and asked him about Al-Azl (i.e., coitus interruptus). Abu Sa'id said, "We went out with Allah's Messenger for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq, and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. So, when we intended to do coitus interruptus, we said, 'How can we do coitus interruptus without asking Allah's Messenger while he is present among us?' We asked (him) about it and he said, 'It is better for you not to do so. There is no person that is destined to exist, but will come to existence, till the Day of Resurrection.'" (Sahih Bukhari, no. 4138)


    Here the critic's argument goes something like this:


    - The Islamic traditions show that Muslims had sex with their slave girls

    - According to my subjective logic it is inconceivable that slave girls would consent to having sex with the captors that just killed members from their tribe

    - In conclusion, the Islamic traditions show that Muslims raped their slave girls


    These critics are ignorant of history, for slave girls did consent to having sex with their captors back in the past.


    John McClintock said:


    Women who followed their father and husbands to the war put on their finest dresses and ornaments previous to an engagement, in the hope of finding favor in the eyes of their captors in case of a defeat.(John McClintock, James Strong, "Cyclopdia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature" [Harper & Brothers, 1894], p. 782)



    Matthew B. Schwartz said:



    The Book of Deuteronomy prescribes its own rules for the treatment of women captured in war [ Deut 21:10-14 ] . Women have always followed armies to do the soldiers' laundry, to nurse the sick and wounded, and to serve as prostitutes

    They would often dress in such a way as to attract the soldiers who won the battle. The Bible recognizes the realities of the battle situation in its rules on how to treat female captives, though commentators disagree on some of the details.

    The biblical Israelite went to battle as a messenger of God. Yet he could also, of course, be caught up in the raging tide of blood and violence. The Western mind associates prowess, whether military or athletic, with sexual success.


    The pretty girls crowd around the hero who scores the winning touchdown, not around the players of the losing team. And it is certainly true in war: the winning hero "attracts" the women.
    (Matthew B. Schwartz, Kalman J. Kaplan, "The Fruit of Her Hands: The Psychology of Biblical Women" [Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing, 2007] , pp. 146-147)


    Thus we see from two non-Muslim authors that slave girls back in the past would consent to having sex with their captors. So if we put aside our 21st century mindset and look at history objectively, there is nothing wrong with saying that slave girls back then consented to having sex with their captors.

    One might object to the fact that the above authors are only speaking about the Israelite era. However, that is really not a good response. The point I am trying to make is that the idea of the possibility of slave girls willingly having sex with their captors is not absurd. Thus, one is required to provide proof that those slave girls who had sex with their Muslim captors did not consent. This is especially due to the fact that 1) It was possible for slave girls back in the past to consent to having sex with their captors and 2) Muslims were prohibited from harming their slave girls.

    If the critic says that not all of the slave girls felt this way and there were bound to be some who didn't want to have sex, I would agree with him. However, how does this prove that the Muslims raped their slave girls? How does the critic know whether the Muslim back then actually raped the slave girl who was unwilling to have sex with him? Isn't it possible that if he saw her unwilling he would have sold to her to another Muslim at a cheaper price? Or he would have purchased another slave girl who was willing to have sex with him? Or he would have waited for her to consent, for by that time he would have treated her very nicely and convinced her that Islam is true and that it was her tribe's fault for starting the battle, etc. Yes these things are possible.

    How does the critic know that none of these things happened? What is his proof that the Muslims raped their slave girls?


    The narration doesn't show:

    - How many Muslim captors decided to go through with having sex with the slave girls?

    - How many women actually ended up having sex with their Muslim captors?

    - Most importantly, whether any slave girls were raped

    Even if the critic is successful in showing that the Muslims raped them, what is his proof that this was approved by the Prophet (peace be upon him)? It's possible that Muslims committed sins back then and disobeyed the Prophet (peace be upon him). So where could the critic show us the Prophet (peace be upon him) approving of such behavior?

    He cannot and I challenge him to.


    Another narration that the critics appeals to is this:

    Sunan Abu Dawud

    Volume 2, Number 2150

    Abu Said al-Khudri said: The apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Quranic verse, 'And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess'. That is to say, they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period.

    The critics would argue that no slave girl would consent to having sexual intercourse in the presence of her husband.
    However, this is a completely false translation of the hadith. The words "in the presence of" are no where to be found in the Arabic text.

    The full Arabic text (found here) states:

    ‏حدثنا ‏ ‏عبيد الله بن عمر بن ميسرة ‏ ‏حدثنا ‏ ‏يزيد بن زريع ‏ ‏حدثنا ‏ ‏سعيد ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏قتادة ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏صالح أبي الخليل ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏أبي علقمة الهاشمي ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏أبي سعيد الخدري ‏

    ‏أن رسول الله ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏بعث يوم ‏ ‏حنين ‏ ‏بعثا ‏ ‏إلى ‏ ‏أوطاس ‏ ‏فلقوا عدوهم فقاتلوهم فظهروا عليهم وأصابوا لهم ‏ ‏سبايا ‏ ‏فكأن أناسا من ‏ ‏أصحاب رسول الله ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏تحرجوا من ‏ ‏غشيانهن ‏ ‏من أجل أزواجهن من المشركين فأنزل الله تعالى في ذلك ‏
    ‏أي فهن لهم حلال إذا انقضت عدتهن

    If the reader does not know how to read Arabic, let him bring someone who does and ask him whether he can point out to him the words "in the presence of". He won't be able to. The translation in Saheeh Muslim seems more accurate:

    Saheeh Muslim

    Book 008, Number 3432:

    Abu Sa'id al-Khudri (Allah her pleased with him) reported that at the Battle of Hunain Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:" And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (iv. 24)" (i. e. they were lawful for them when their 'Idda period came to an end).

    So here we see that the Muslim soldiers were feeling uncomfortable with engaging in sexual intercourse with women who were already married. However, the verse was revealed saying that it is permissible to engage in sexual intercourse with slave girls even if they are married.

    Imam Al Tabari in his commentary on Surah 4:24 cites several of the companions and second generation Muslims stating that the marriage of a woman is annulled after she has been captured and made a slave.

    Imam Nawawi in his commentary on this hadith states:

    فإنه ينفسخ نكاح زوجها الكافر
    It (i.e. to come to own a slave girl) annuls the marriage between her and her disbeliever husband. (Imam Nawawi, Sharh Saheeh Muslim, Kitab: Al Ridaa', Bab: Jawaaz Wati' Al Missbiyyah Ba'd Al Istibraa' wa en Kaana laha Zawj Infasakh, Commentary on Hadith no. 2643, Source)



    Thus, we see that in the eyes of Islam this marriage becomes invalid (some opinions like that of the Hanafi school state other conditions required for the annulment to occur). The critic would definitely argue back stating "what gives your religion the right?" but that is not the point of discussion. This is an external critique of Islam and the basis for this discussion really isn't about this topic in particular but about whether Islam really is true and whether this is God's decree. To debate the specifics is just useless. The Muslim sees this decree to be internally consistent and submits to God's law that states that action x results in a divorce.

    One might shout out to the Christian as well, "What gives your Bible the right to declare a woman an adulteress if she happened to marry a man who divorced her by not following the proper procedures (Matthew 5:2)?" The Christian really has nothing to say except the fact that he believes that this is God's decree and submits to it. He believes that God has the power and right to determine how divorce should take place (e.g. what conditions are valid for divorce) and submits to them. Well, the Muslim says the same thing in this regard.


    Imam Nawawi goes on to say:
    واعلم أن مذهب الشافعي ومن قال بقوله من العلماء أن المسبية من عبدة الأوثان وغيرهم من الكفار الذين لا كتاب لهم لا يحل وطؤها بملك اليمين حتى تسلم فما دامت على دينها فهي محرمة , فهؤلاء المسبيات كن من مشركي العرب عبدة الأوثان , فيؤول هذا الحديث وشبهه على أنهن أسلمن , وهذا التأويل لا بد منه والله أعلم


    And know that the school of thought of Al Shafi'i and who agreed with him from amongst the scholars have stated that the idol worshipper and those whom have no religious book cannot be approached for sexual intercourse unless they convert to Islam first. As long as they are following their religion they are forbidden to approach. These slave girls (i.e. in the particular narration) are idol worshippers. This hadith and whatever resembles it must be interpreted as implying that the slave girls accepted Islam. There is no other choice but to interpret the hadiths this way and Allah knows best. (Ibid)


    So here we see that a great number of scholars have argued that just as Muslims are forbidden to marry idol worshippers, they are forbidden as well from engaging in sexual intercourse with idol worshipping slave girls. In order to engage in the sexual act, the Muslim must wait for the slave girl to convert to Islam and in Islam there is no shred of evidence whatsoever that the Muslim can force or compel his slave girl to convert to Islam.

    We see cases in the life of the Prophet (peace be upon him) where slave girls willingly prefer to accept Islam over returning to their tribe due to recognizing the truth of Islam and injustice of their own tribe for provoking the Muslims to war. The most famous case being that of Safiyyah, one of the wives of the Prophet (peace be upon him).

    Furthermore, when analyzing the particular story mentioned in the hadith we see that no rape could have reasonably taken place.

    Saifur Rahman al-Mubarakpuri states:

    The Enemy's March and their Encampment at Awtas

    When Malik bin 'Awf - the general leader - decided to march and fight the Muslims, he made his countrypeople take their wealth, women and children with them to Awtas - which is a valley in Hawazin land and is quite near Hunain. It differs from Hunain in its being adjacent to Dhi-Al-Majaz which is around ten miles from Makkah in 'Arafat's direction. [Fath Al-Bari 8/27,42]
    The War-experienced Man wrongs the Leader's Judgement

    As soon as they had camped in Awtas, people crowded round Malik. The old sane Duraid bin As-Simmah, who was well-known as a war-experienced man, and who was among those who gathered round Malik, asked: "What valley are we in?" "In Awtas," they said. "What a good course it is for horses! It is neither a sharp pointed height nor a loosed soiled plain. What? Why do I hear camels' growling, the donkeys' braying, the children's cries and the sheep bleating?" asked Duraid. They said: "Malik bin 'Awf had made people bring their women, properties and children with them." So he called Malik and asked him what made him do such a thing. Malik said that his aim was to have everybody's family and properties around them so that they fight fiercely to protect them." "I swear by Allh that you are nothing but a shepherd," answered Duraid, "Do you believe that there is anything whatsoever, can stand in the way of a defeated one or stop him from fleeing? If you win the battle you avail nothing but a man with a sword and a spear; but if you lose you will bring disgrace on your people and properties," then he resumed his talk and went on wondering about some septs and their leaders. "O Malik, thrusting the distinguished people of Hawazin into the battlefield will avail you nothing. Raise them up to where they can be safe. Then make the young people mount their horses and fight. If you win, those whom you tarried will follow you, but if you were the loser it would be a loss of a battle, but your kinsmen, people and properties would not be lost."(Saifur Rahman al-Mubarakpuri, Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtum (The Sealed Nectar): The Third Stage, Source)

    So here we see that it was the disbeliever's fault for bringing their own women and children to the battle field. The Prophet (peace be upon him) was not interested in invading their lands and taking their women as it would be made clear as we read on:


    A similar battalion of horsemen pursued the idolaters who threaded the track to Nakhlah and caught up with Duraid bin As-Simmah, who was killed by Rabi'a bin Rafi'. After collecting the booty, the Messenger of Allh [pbuh] left for Ta'if to face the greatest number of the defeated idolaters. The booty was six thousand captives, twenty four thousand camels; over forty thousand sheep and four thousand silver ounces.


    So here we see that the Muslims were victorious and obtained an impressive amount of war booty.

    Continuing on:

    The Distribution of the Booty at Al-Ji'ranah

    Upon returning and lifting the siege in Ta'if, the Messenger of Allh [pbuh] had stayed over ten nights at Al-Ji'ranah before starting to distribute the booty. Distribution delay was due to the Prophet's hope that Hawazin's delegation might arrive and announce their repentance and consequently reclaim their loss. Seeing that none of them arrived, he started dividing the booty so as to calm down the tribes' chiefs and the celebrities of Makkah. The first to receive booty and the ones who obtained the greatest number of shares were the people who had recently embraced Islam.

    Notice this crucial point. The Prophet (peace be upon him) intentionally delayed distributing the booty because he wanted the Hawazin to come back and surrender and then collect their lost war booty.

    Notice how the Prophet (peace be upon him) was not eager to keep the women and have his men rape them as some critics allege.

    What happens next is amazing:
    Arrival of the Hawazin Delegation

    Hawazin's delegation arrived a Muslims just after the distribution of spoils. They were fourteen men headed by Zuhair bin Sard. The Messenger's foster uncle was one of them. They asked him to bestow upon them some of the wealth and spoils. They uttered so touching words that the Messenger of Allh [pbuh] said to them: "You surely see who are with me. The most desirable speech to me is the most truthful. Which is dearer to you, your wealth or your women and children?" They replied: "Nothing whatsoever compares with kinship." Then when I perform the noon prayer, stand up and say: "We intercede with the Messenger of Allh [pbuh] to exhort the believers, and we intercede with the believers to exhort the Messenger of Allh [pbuh] to forego the captives of our people fallen to their lot." So when the Messenger of Allh [pbuh] performed the noon prayer, they stood up and said what they had been told to say. The Messenger [pbuh], then, said: "As for what belongs to me and to the children of Abdul Muttalib, you may consider them, from now on, yours. And I will ask my folksmen to give back theirs." Upon hearing that the Emigrants and the Helpers said: "What belongs to us is, from now on, offered to the Messenger of Allh [pbuh]." But Al-Aqra' bin Habis said, "We will grant none of what belongs to me and to Bani Tamim,"; so did 'Uyaina bin Hisn, who said: "As for me and Bani Fazarah, I say 'No'." Al-'Abbas bin Mirdas also refused and said: "No" for Bani Saleem and him. His people, however, said otherwise: "Whatever spoils belong to us we offer to the Messenger of Allh ([pbuh].)" "You have undermined my position." Said Al-'Abbas bin Mirdas spontaneously. Then the Messenger of Allh [pbuh] said: "These people have come to you as Muslims. For this I have already tarried the distribution of the booty. Besides, I have granted them a fair option but they refused to have anything other than their women and children. Therefore he who has some of theirs and will prefer willingly to give them back, let them do. But those who favours to keep what he owns to himself, let them grant them back too, and he will be given as a recompense six times as much from the first booty that Allh may provide us." People then said, "We will willingly offer them all for the sake of the Messenger of Allh." The Messenger of Allh [pbuh] said: "But in this way we are not able to find out who is content and who is not. So go back and we will be waiting for your chiefs to convey to us your decisions." All of them gave back the women and children. The only one who refused to comply with the Messenger's desire was 'Uyaina bin Hisn. He refused to let an old woman of theirs go back at first. Later on he let her go back. The Messenger of Allh [pbuh] gave every captive a garment as a gift.

    Just look at the mercy of the Prophet (peace be upon him). Indeed, this is the true definition of the word "mercy". Mercy is only real when one is in power to not be merciful yet willingly decides to be, just as we see the Prophet (peace be upon him) do in this situation (and many other situations as well).

    So here we see that the Muslims weren't raping savages, but merciful human beings.

    Thus, for this particular narration we can conclude that:

    - Muslims are not permitted to engage in sexual intercourse with idol worshippers unless they convert to Islam first and once they have converted to Islam it would make their consenting to sexual intercourse much easier.

    - There is no evidence of any ill treatment of the slave girls by the Muslim soldiers.

    - There is no evidence of any slave girls engaging in sexual intercourse with any Muslim soldier. The Muslims might have returned them back to their tribe before they had the chance to.

    - There is no evidence of any Muslim soldier raping his slave girl.

    - Even if there is evidence, there is no evidence that the Prophet (peace be upon him) approved of it.


    The Islamic critic would also appeal to the following narration, which states:


    Jami At-Tirmidhi 1137 - Jabir bin Abdullah narrated: "We practiced Azl while the Qur'an was being revealed." . . . Malik bin Anas said: "The permission of the free woman is to be requested for Azl (i.e. coitus interruptus), while the slave woman's permission need not be requested."


    He would argue that this narration shows that one could engage in coitus interruptus without the permission of his slave girl, which means that he could rape her.

    The first and most important thing to note is that the Prophet (peace be upon him) didn't say that, Imam Maalik said that. The Prophet (peace be upon him) is our final authority.

    Imam Maalik's reasoning was that the free woman has the right to have a child. The man doesn't have the right to forbid his wife from having a child, thus he must ask her permission before doing azl. However, if the Muslim gets his slave girl pregnant, she seizes to become his slave girl and he must marry her. The Muslim therefore, doesn't have to ask for her permission to do azl when they make consensual sex.

    Again, where is the rape? Even if Imam Malik said that you can rape her (which he didn't), he is not my final authority, the Prophet (peace be upon him) is. So what evidence did Imam Maalik use then from the Qur'an and Sunnah to justify his statement that one can rape his slave girl (which he didn't say, it's only for the sake of argument)?



    The critic might reply back and say that the fact that the man has a "right" to have sex with his slave girl indicates that the man is permitted to do "all it takes" to take his rights.

    Even if we say that it is his right, it is his right just like how it is his right to receive obedience from his children. Just like how it is his right to get inheritance if his father passes away.

    Now is the critic seriously trying to argue that Islam would permit a man to physically abuse his children if they didn't give him his right of respect? Is he also trying to say that he can physically abuse and harm his sister if she were to try and steal some of his inheritance money?

    In Islam, one of the rights that a Muslim has over his brother is to be visited when he is sick and to be greeted with peace. If my Muslim brother does not greet me with peace or visit me when I am sick, does that mean that I can physically abuse him until he does, so that "he gives me my right"?

    It seems like this is what he is saying if he were to be consistent. According to this logic, if the Qur'an says someone is entitled to something or has a right to something that means that the person can do whatever he wants - even if it was forbidden - in order to obtain that right.

    This is something absolutely ridiculous, which no Muslim scholar in antiquity has stated. I am really speechless and don't really know how to reply back to such a laughable argument.

    Plus, this could also work against the Christian. I can argue that the Bible states that the man has the right to have sex with his wife, thus if she refuses then he can hurt her! The Christian would reply back and say that he can't hurt his wife because there are other verses that state that he can't do so and this is exactly what we have shown in this article in regards to the slave girl.


    Conclusion
    Islam forbids one to harm those under his authority. Since rape is considered a form of harm that would mean that rape is forbidden. We have also seen that history shows that slave girls in the past did consent to having sex with their captors; hence we must keep our subjective emotions aside and agree with this objective fact. In light of this fact, there is nothing absurd in believing that the Muslims did not rape their slave girls especially since they were forbidden from doing so. And even if some of the Muslims back then did rape their slave girls, this would only show that they committed a sinful act and not that the Prophet (peace be upon him) approved of such behavior. In conclusion, Islam does not permit the Muslim man to rape his slave girl.



    Recommended Readings on the Rape of Slave Girls in the Bible

    Commentary on Deuteronomy 22:28-29
    Haughty women are punished with rape
    Isaiah 3:17, foreheads or secret parts?
    Women are punished again with rape
    More rape in the Hebrew Bible?
    Biblical Law Permits Rape of Female Captives



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    These are slaves of war why would they want to sleep with the enemy?
    and what exactly is the point of marraige(which is have to relations in a halal manner) if men can have concubines and children outside of wedlock? and if they have these relations during war why are these people whom their right hand possesses set free? can they continue to have these relations when war times have passed?
    These are genuine questions and I would really like to know the answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAWA*~ View Post
    These are slaves of war why would they want to sleep with the enemy?
    You can't force or make a slave want to sleep with you enemy or not as per above and it is punishable by the same had as zinna!
    and what exactly is the point of marraige(which is have to relations in a halal manner) if men can have concubines and children outside of wedlock?
    A sexual relation with a slave girl gives her freedom from slavery and the children aren't considered 'out of wedlock' they are legitimate children!

    and if they have these relations during war why are these people whom their right hand possesses set free? can they continue to have these relations when war times have passed?
    I am not sure I understand this question.. are you asking if slavery can continue beyond wartime?






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    Quote Originally Posted by τhε ṿαlε'ṡ ll View Post
    You can't force or make a slave want to sleep with you enemy or not as per above and it is punishable by the same had as zinna!
    It cant be a choice for somebody who is a "slave" an individual with no power to sleep with their master unless their hoping to gain something. Theres just something off about having relations with someone deemed a slave.

    Quote Originally Posted by τhε ṿαlε'ṡ ll View Post
    A sexual relation with a slave girl gives her freedom from slavery and the children aren't considered 'out of wedlock' they are legitimate children!
    but the man isnt married to her and she is not his wife. If a man can have sexual relations with a women he isnt married to and have kids with her than what is the point of marraige and wives?

    Quote Originally Posted by τhε ṿαlε'ṡ ll View Post
    I am not sure I understand this question.. are you asking if slavery can continue beyond wartime?
    yes and why sexual relations are allowed after wartime when the need for it is over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HAWA*~ View Post
    It cant be a choice for somebody who is a "slave" an individual with no power to sleep with their master unless their hoping to gain something. Theres just something off about having relations with someone deemed a slave.


    but the man isnt married to her and she is not his wife. If a man can have sexual relations with a women he isnt married to and have kids with her than what is the point of marraige and wives?



    yes and why sexual relations are allowed after wartime when the need for it is over.
    shukron
    4:25
    And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess. [This is] the decree of Allah upon you. And lawful to you are [all others] beyond these, [provided] that you seek them [in marriage] with [gifts from] your property, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse. So for whatever you enjoy [of marriage] from them, give them their due compensation as an obligation. And there is no blame upon you for what you mutually agree to beyond the obligation. Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Wise.
    4:25
    And whoever among you cannot [find] the means to marry free, believing women, then [he may marry] from those whom your right hands possess of believing slave girls. And Allah is most knowing about your faith. You [believers] are of one another. So marry them with the permission of their people and give them their due compensation according to what is acceptable. [They should be] chaste, neither [of] those who commit unlawful intercourse randomly nor those who take [secret] lovers. But once they are sheltered in marriage, if they should commit adultery, then for them is half the punishment for free [unmarried] women. This [allowance] is for him among you who fears sin, but to be patient is better for you. And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.



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    Quote Originally Posted by aadil77 View Post
    4:25
    And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess. [This is] the decree of Allah upon you. And lawful to you are [all others] beyond these, [provided] that you seek them [in marriage] with [gifts from] your property, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse. So for whatever you enjoy [of marriage] from them, give them their due compensation as an obligation. And there is no blame upon you for what you mutually agree to beyond the obligation. Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Wise.
    4:25
    And whoever among you cannot [find] the means to marry free, believing women, then [he may marry] from those whom your right hands possess of believing slave girls. And Allah is most knowing about your faith. You [believers] are of one another. So marry them with the permission of their people and give them their due compensation according to what is acceptable. [They should be] chaste, neither [of] those who commit unlawful intercourse randomly nor those who take [secret] lovers. But once they are sheltered in marriage, if they should commit adultery, then for them is half the punishment for free [unmarried] women. This [allowance] is for him among you who fears sin, but to be patient is better for you. And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
    Thanks for the reply but i'm just wondering what would differentiate the wife and the slave since they carry out the same duty in regards to the master/husband and both their kids are legitamate? isit because one is believing as opposed to the other and the first ayah is all "married women" except for the one's his right hand possesses, can he have relations with "married women" who may be married to another slave that his right hand possesses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAWA*~ View Post
    It cant be a choice for somebody who is a "slave" an individual with no power to sleep with their master unless their hoping to gain something. Theres just something off about having relations with someone deemed a slave.
    As such Allah swt has set the limits "The Prophet said to me, 'O Abu Dhar! Did you abuse him by calling his mother with bad names You still have some characteristics of ignorance. Your slaves are your brothers and Allah has put them under your command. So whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears. Do not ask them (slaves) to do things beyond their capacity (power) and if you do so, then help them."
    if you are abusing a position of power then there is a grievous punishment in this life and the next. (pls contrast that with the judeo/christian views on slavery included in the links above!

    but the man isnt married to her and she is not his wife. If a man can have sexual relations with a women he isnt married to and have kids with her than what is the point of marraige and wives?
    This is presuming the slave girl agrees to relations with her master and presuming that he can afford to keep a wife and a slave girl!


    yes and why sexual relations are allowed after wartime when the need for it is over.
    shukron
    I really don't know about this sister, someone more knowledgeable will have to answer it..

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    I've read about slavery in islam and the slaves seem have a great deal of power and for the most part are members of society. Maybe slave is the wrong word to use in relation to them, it's a pretty loaded term and when you think slave you most likely think of the african slaves take from africa and their disgusting treatment by the europeans in America.
    Thanks alot for the replies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAWA*~ View Post
    I've read about slavery in islam and the slaves seem have a great deal of power and for the most part are members of society. Maybe slave is the wrong word to use in relation to them, it's a pretty loaded term and when you think slave you most likely think of the african slaves take from africa and their disgusting treatment by the europeans in America.
    Thanks alot for the replies.
    I do indeed and when I do think about it, I think of either KKK burning blacks at the stake, experimenting on them in south Africa (where the first successful heart transplant was performed) or of effete saudis so I understand where you are coming from, I find it disgusting but I don't think that treatment is at all compatible with Islam and in fact is made a crime in this life and a sin against the self for the hereafter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sojourn View Post
    Scimi,

    I have searched google as well as Islam-qa where I thought one of the scholars there did say it was permissible to have sex with a concubine against her will because she is his property, but I am no longer able to find that article. Most of what is online is simply a rehashing of what the above article more or less eloquently states, however I am amazed that there is not even one explicit mention by a well known scholar ruling against a master having sex with a concubine solely because it is against her will.
    And yet, you are attempting to apply old world rules to the modern age where slavery in its antique use of the term does not even exist today - what are you trying to prove again?

    Let's play by your old world rules shall we?

    1400 years ago, how were slaves treated in the world? Like crap. In fact -right up til the 19th century, the western brand of imperialism was exploiting slavery, especially in the west - where the American slave masters would randomly rape their slave women, even if they were married to another slave...

    but let's rewind 1400 year and see what the situation was like in Arabia shall we? and let's contrast what the Islamic world had doen to eradicate slavery from its peninsula - and let's see what happened in the rest of the world at the same time, shall we?

    Allah empowered the slave through divine code in the Quran and the ahadeeth which the Prophet Muhammad pbuh spoke.

    The slaves were allowed to be treated like a member of the family, and not a material object. The Quran uses the term "what your right hand possesses" - this includes the wife - not just the slave - you with me? Ok - good! So now that you understand that slaves were elevated to the position of adopted family member, and were to be treated as equals, you can see that the honour bestowed upon these slaves gave them "status" and this allowed them to be accepted by the tribal commmunites and afford protection simply by affiliation, in a land that was dubbed "barbaric" by the Greeks and Romans lol.

    yet the Greeks and Romans, were doing what? Oh the hypocrisy in your attempt to reconcile the rulings on slave women is a farce to me sojourn, because if you really want to see slavery at its most demeaning, there are many many more examples, each trumping Islam when it comes to being cruel and tyrannical...

    ...infact, let's just take a look at what the bible has to say about slavery and open a can of worms there shall we? You act as if your own faith is free from such comparisons, yet if we decide to dig a little, using our friend google, he whispers to his friend wiki and wiki comes back with this:

    Christian views on slavery are varied both regionally and historically. In the early years of Christianity, slavery was a normal feature of the economy and society in the Roman Empire, and well into the Middle Ages and beyond.[1] Most Christian figures in that early period, such as Saint Augustine, supported continuing slavery whereas several figures such as Saint Patrick were opposed. Centuries later, as the abolition movement took shape across the globe, groups who advocated slavery's abolition used Christian teachings in support of their positions, using the 'spirit of Christianity', biblical verses against slavery, and textual argumentation.[2]
    The issue of Christianity and slavery is one that has seen intense conflict. While Christian abolitionists were a principal force in the abolition of slavery, the Bible sanctioned the use of regulated slavery in the Old Testament and whether or not the New Testament condemned or sanctioned slavery has been disputed. Passages in the Bible have historically been used by both pro-slavery advocates and slavery abolitionists to support their respective views.

    Centuries later, literally meaning after they started to follow the examples of the Muslims - research it.

    So, when you consider that slavery existed, and was even sanctioned in the bible, with no mention of slaves rights, you have to swallow your tongue a little sojourn. But to play advocate - because i am a fair guy, I will also mention this from wiki:

    Early Christian thought exhibited some signs of kindness towards slaves. Christianity recognised marriage of sorts among slaves,[65] freeing slaves was regarded as an act of charity,[66] and when slaves were buried in Christian cemeteries, the grave seldom included any indication that the person buried had been a slave.

    And when you understand that Muslims too were encouraged by the Prophet Muhammad pbuh to FREE SLAVES, the Muslims did. En Masse. Its in our histories.

    I fail to see what you are tryin to understand in this thread of yours... all points you are raising in relation to a Muslim male sleeping with his adopted concubine, is a lot more befitting and honour worthy than just using her and throwing her away afterwards, and God help her if she falls pregnant coz by Christian laws, they don't inherit anything... but by Muslim laws? they inherit a portion of the Muslim males wealth, adopted as a family member akin to a wife, and marry him also, and the child is a legitimate heir to his fortunes.

    SO please, do compare slavery between Islam and Christianity, I'd like to hear of your justifications - if any.

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    You ignored my post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scimitar View Post
    Slavery doesn't exist anymore so the rulings are redundant.
    It's relevant to me because the Shariah is considered an immutable law that is meant for all mankind. It is as relevant today as it was fourteen hundred years ago, so there is still value in understanding Islam's view on this matter, and that in turn helps us to understand the nature of Islam better.

    The ultimate aim was achieved - slavery was abolished in Islam and the rest of the world followed our example. Your question itself is now oh so very redundant.
    Wikipedia has a timeline of when slavery was abolished per country. Note that slavery continued well into the 20th century and most of those countries were Islamic.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboliti...2.80.93present

    Saudi abolished slavery in 1962 for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sojourn View Post
    It's relevant to me because the Shariah is considered an immutable law that is meant for all mankind. It is as relevant today as it was fourteen hundred years ago, so there is still value in understanding Islam's view on this matter, and that in turn helps us to understand the nature of Islam better.

    It is imnmutable, but flexible - and the Mufti's can hold council to amend the shariah if need be. The world is not static, and neither is the shariah. Both accomodate Allahs will.



    Wikipedia has a timeline of when slavery was abolished per country. Note that slavery continued well into the 20th century and most of those countries were Islamic.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboliti...2.80.93present

    Saudi abolished slavery in 1962 for example.
    *cough* most of these countries were Islamic? yet, who in the world was crying out for equal rights in the 20th and 21st centuries? Afro caribbean Americans who were enslaved by the Christians of the New World... so really, you can quote wiki all you like, but it doesn't help your case as it does mine

    When the Arab states "abolished slavery" it was more of an official statement.... they loked on in wonderment at the fact they had to make the statement that slavery was abolished, because it had been abolished in those countries already since hundreds of years ago.

    Heck, even when the infamous T.E Lawrence (the spy) travelled Arabia - he commented on the fact that there were no slaves as he was led to believe. So really, the "wiki facts" you post, only serve as lip service ton the west the action of abolishing slavery was already a done thing in the Muslim world.

    And since you mention the House of Saud in your post, I'd like to point out that they "buy" slaves all the time, under the guise of house workers - these poor women are imported in from Indonesia and Malaysia and often suffer terrible ordeals at the hands of the Saud - who I do not really respect for their selfish ways.

    So - I tell you, slavery may be abolished as a way of life, but it exists as a very real thing for the elite of this world. They just keep very hush about it. And not just the Muslims, heck you got the Russians, you got the Germans, the Brits, USA, Israel and ofcourse - need I spell it out?.

    So if you want to make an issue out of it, good luck!

    Anyhow, as I explained, laws become redundant when certain practices are wiped out. The ultimate aim regarding slavery in Islam - was to abolish it!

    And it was abolished !!! And NOT In the modern age - like I said, the sauds were only giving lip services, so were the other islamic states - lol.

    The fact that you can't understand this shows me that you have a very low IQ.

    Whatever points you have raised in this thread are nowt but extensions of a very one dimensional outlook into religous laws and practices - such a shame, I was hoping you could teach me something new... all you taught me was the same old tired argument from Answering-Islam hate site lol which has been refuted multiple times, in multiple ways

    Good day to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scimitar
    Whatever points you have raised in this thread are nowt but extensions of a very one dimensional outlook into religous laws and practices - such a shame, I was hoping you could teach me something new... all you taught me was the same old tired argument from Answering-Islam hate site lol which has been refuted multiple times, in multiple ways
    Indeed. It is a characteristic of missionaries to try and divert attention by focusing on non-existent issues and viewing Islamic law with one eye closed, rather than appreciating a holistic view of Shariah Law. When they ignore responses and keep repeating the same allegations that have been addressed numerous times, one cannot help but point out the ulterior motives behind their questions. Surprisingly, they seem to ignore biblical teachings concerning slavery and instead choose to point the finger of accusation against Islam.

    Let us highlight some of the teachings of Islam regarding slavery which missionaries keep ignoring:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ansar Al-'Adl

    • Islam encouraged the emanciplating of slaves; The Qur'an does so in many places:
      4:92, 5:89, 58:3, 90:13, 24:33, 9:60, 2:177, 2:221, 4:25, 4:36.
      The Prophet said:
      "A person who frees a Muslim slave, Allah will deliver every one of his limbs from the fire of Hell in return for each of the limbs of the slave (Sahh Bukhr, and Sahh Muslim)
      Shaykh Abu Bakr Al-Jaz'iry writes:
      Islam orders making an agreement to facilitate a slave in buying back his freedom if he requests such an agreement, and it encourages helping him in that with shares or wealth. Allah the Almighty said:
      And such of your slaves as seek a writing (of emancipation) give them such writing, if you find that there is good and honesty in them. And give them something (yourselves) out of the wealth of Allah which He has bestowed upon you. (Qur'an 24:33)

      (Al-Jaza'iry, Minhaj Al-Muslim, vol. 2, p.551)
      The Prophet said: "If any of you have a slave girl, whom he gives good education and excellent training, and then he emancipates her and marries her, he shall have a two-fold reward. " (Sahh Bukhari)
    • Islam eliminated and restricted the sources of slavery, prohibiting the enslavement of free people, the Prophet said:
      The Prophet said, "Allah says, 'I will be against three persons on the Day of Resurrection: [...] One who sells a free person (as a slave) and eats the price[/b] (Sahh Bukhari)
      "There are three people whose prayers are not accepted. And one of these three is a man who enslaves a free person (Rajulun iitabada muharraran)" (Sunan Ab Dawd)
    • Islam obligated freeing slaves in many circumstances as expiation. Expiation for breaking an oath is freeing a slave (2:221), unintentionally causing a Muslim's death is freeing a slave (4:221), expiation for Zihr is freeing a slave (4:221), breaking one's fast in ramadan is freeing a slave (Sahh Muslim), etc.
    • Islam elevated the status of slaves and promoted universal human equality; the Prophet said:
      "Yield obedience to my succesors, even if he is a black ethiopian slave" (Mishkat al-Masaabih, At-Tabreezee)
      "No one should say, "my slave" as all of you are slaves of Allah." (Bukhari, Muslim, An-Nasaa'ee and Ibn Hibban)

    Islam prohibited the poor treatment of slaves; the Prophet said:
    "Whoever strikes his slave or beats him, then his expiation is to free him." (Sahh Muslim)
    They are your brothers; give them to eat what you eat; give them to wear what you wear. (Sunan At-Tirmidhi)
    "He who treats his slave badly will not enter Paradise". (Musnad Ahmad)
    "You are to honor them and to treat them like your children, and feed them from what you eat" (Musnad Ahmad)


    Quote Originally Posted by Perseveranze
    Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: "When the slave of anyone amongst you prepares food for him and he serves him after having sat close to (and undergoing the hardship of) heat and smoke, he should make him (the slave) sit along with him and make him eat (along with him), and if the food seems to run short, then he should spare some portion for him (from his own share) - (another narrator) Dawud said:" i. e. a morsel or two". 4097. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4096)"


    Narrated Al-Ma'rur: "At Ar-Rabadha I met Abu Dhar who was wearing a cloak, and his slave, too, was wearing a similar one. I asked about the reason for it. He replied, "I abused a person by calling his mother with bad names." The Prophet said to me, 'O Abu Dhar! Did you abuse him by calling his mother with bad names You still have some characteristics of ignorance. Your slaves are your brothers and Allah has put them under your command. So whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears. Do not ask them (slaves) to do things beyond their capacity (power) and if you do so, then help them.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Belief, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 29)"

    [...]

    Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari: "The Prophet said, "Give food to the hungry, pay a visit to the sick and release (set free) the one in captivity (by paying his ransom)." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Food, Meals, Volume 7, Book 65, Number 286)"

    "Zadhan reported that Ibn Umar called his slave and he found the marks (of beating) upon his back. He said to him: I have caused you pain. He said: No. But he (Ibn Umar) said: You are free. He then took hold of something from the earth and said: There is no reward for me even to the weight equal to it. I heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: He who beats a slave without cognizable offence of his or slaps him, then expiation for it is that he should set him free. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4079)"


    Interesting how even the smallest of things warrents a slave to be set free, this was 1400 years ago when people (as the Bible suggest) would beat their slaves to an inch of their life.


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