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salam alaikum

what i find exteremely funny is that since people cannot "attack the Quran" in the scientific context they always try and use the historic prespective from 1000's of years before and what happend then.

Wheras the fact about history can be summed up in this little story:

"General Custer - The Great Hero of Yester-years - now exposed to be the villan and instigator through Archeology" - This was rejected by the US and they refused to change their history books stating that historians and archeologists can be wrong.

So basically Archeologists and Historians can "guess" or even make "fairly accurate" guesses at what was going on back 1000's of years ago but they cannot 100% accurately say "this is what happend"

But I find it hilarious when people come attacking the Quran suddenly the word of historians and archeologists becomes "fact"

lol

where is guest? has she/he left the forum or something?
may Allah guide him/her, ameen!

Yeah i haven't seen any other posts by Guest iether. Check her profile to see if ther are any other threads by her.

Deuteronomy 14:1 - You are the SONS OF GOD. You shall not cut yourselves, or make any baldness on your head on account of the Dead.

Actually it is:

"Ye are the children of the L-RD your G-d: ye shall not cut yourselves, nor make any baldness between your eyes for the dead."

And the Hebrew for that part is, בָּנִים אַתֶּם which is "baneem attem"

This is G-d explaining that he does not want his children express their grief by mutilating themselves, since we are all G-d's creation and in an essence G-d's children.

The "son of G-d" that Christians refer to, cannot be supported in Jewish text. I cannot speak for their own text however, but I do believe them to be false.

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Salam

It is refering to some jews who did say that. Not all.

If you say that's not possible to mean that, I say go learn something about arabic first, then make that assertion.

Originally Posted by Link

Salam

It is refering to some jews who did say that. Not all.

If you say that's not possible to mean that, I say go learn something about arabic first, then make that assertion.

Is this not the verse:

"The Jews call ‘Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!"

وَقَالَتِ الْيَهُودُ عُزَيْرٌ ابْنُ اللّهِ وَقَالَتْ النَّصَارَى الْمَسِيحُ ابْنُ اللّهِ ذَلِكَ قَوْلُهُم بِأَفْوَاهِهِمْ يُضَاهِؤُونَ قَوْلَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ مِن قَبْلُ قَاتَلَهُمُ اللّهُ أَنَّى يُؤْفَكُونَ

Waqalati alyahoodu AAuzayrun ibnu Allahi waqalati alnnasara almaseehu ibnu Allahi thalika qawluhum bi-afwahihim yudahi-oona qawla allatheena kafaroo min qablu qatalahumu Allahu anna yu/fakoona

Why would G-d not say "Some Jews"?

Originally Posted by IzakHalevas

Is this not the verse:
Why would G-d not say "Some Jews"?

You speak arabic?

I told you it can mean some. Take it or leave it.

Originally Posted by IceQueen~

where is guest? has she/he left the forum or something?
may Allah guide him/her, ameen!

Ameen to the du'a

Anways, reading other verses shows this is not a generalization, because a party of jews and christians were saved by a rope from God (book) and rope from men (appointed guide).

Other verses show those amomg jews and chritians with proper belief in God and did good, would be rewarded.

Ofcourse, looking at a verse in isolation is something everyone likes to do with Quran these days.

For example, people say Quran says you can be friends with anyone other then muslims (even chrisitans, jews). But other verses show those verses prohibiting friendship were not general to all christians, jews or polythiests, they were particular only to those who fight and kill us.