Could some list the refutitations like the moon god and so on and then type the answers to them and have it as a sticky that way it will help inshallah the brothers and sisters and they will be ready when people ask them.

I can start it off if you want me:

Proof That Allah Is Not a Moon God

Lately, a lot of Christians on the internet, such as Jack Chick at **********, have been spreading around the lie that Allah is only a pagan moon god. But that is obviously no more than a lie, and one parroted all too willingly by Christians who don't bother to find out the facts. What the Koran, the ultimate and final basis of all Islamic doctrine, say about this? The Koran says that God made the moon for the sake of helping us tell time:

It is [God] who made the sun a radiance, and the moon a light, and determined it by stations, that you might know the number of the years and the reckoning.

(- 10:05 -)
Noble Quran

As such, it is subjected to us:

[God] subjected to you the night and day, and the sun and moon.

(- 16:12 -)
Noble Quran

Allah is in full control of the moon as well as the sun:

[God] subjected the sun and the moon, each one running to a term stated. He directs the affair; He distinguishes the signs; haply you will have faith in the encounter with your Lord.

(- 13:02 -)
Noble Quran

If thou askest them, "Who created the heavens and the earth and subjected the sun and the moon?" they will say, "God." How then are they perverted?

(- 29:61 -)
Noble Quran

As a result of this, the moon worships Allah:

Hast thou not seen how to God bow all who are in the heavens and all who are in the earth, the sun and the moon, the stars and the mountains, the trees and the beasts, and many of mankind?

(- 22:18 -)
Noble Quran

The blessed Abraham actually tried worshipping the moon, as well as the sun and the stars, but when he found how temporal they were, and how totally under the control of some higher power, he decided to worship the thing that made them all, and the earth as well, and that’s when that thing, our Lord, revealed Himself:

We were showing Abraham the kingdom ofthe heavens and the earth, that he might be of those having sure faith. When night outspread over him he saw a star and said, "This is my Lord." But when itset he said, "I love not the setters." When he saw the moon rising, he said, "This is my Lord." But when it set he said, "If my Lord does not guide me I shall surely be of the people gone astray." When he saw the sun rising, he said,"This is my Lord; this is greater!" But when it set he said, "O my people,surely I am quit of that you associate. I have turned my face to Him whooriginated the heavens and the earth, a man of pure faith; I am not of the idolaters.

(- 6:75to79 -)
Noble Quran

Finally, nothing else is really needed to destroy the "moon god" argument but this verse:

Bow not yourselves to the sun and moon, but bow yourselves to God who created them, if Him you serve.

(- 41:37 -)
Noble Quran

So why is the symbol of Islam the crescent moon with the pentangle? It started during the crusades, but no one knows for sure why the Moors used that symbol. It was probably because, as I've pointed out, the Koran says that the moon is to be used by us for reckoning time. Maybe time was important to the moors, I don't know. Funny how the star next to the moon is never brought up by the people who make the "moon god" allegation. There's a pentangle (five-pointed star) in the design as well as a moon, and yet Christians never accuse us of basing our beliefs on Wicca. Just face it: the whole moon god idea is a big lie, and a really stupid one at that.

Despite all of Christians' attempts to prove the contrary, Allah is unmistakably and undeniably the same god as Jahweh. It does not change a thing that Jahweh is claimed by Christians to be a Trinity despite the Bible saying nothing about that, and even emphasizing repeatedly the oneness of Jahweh (never mentioning a threeness in the oneness--except in 1 John 5:7, which is universally considered a medieval interpolation--say, doesn't the need for such an interpolation to have been put in mean anything to you?), while the Koran rightfully denies the Trinity. It's the same God in both texts who sent the same score of prophets mentioned in both books, and the Koran even says:

Certainly they disbelieve who say; Surely, Allah--He is the Messiah, son of Marium. Say: Who then could control anything as against Allah when He wished to destroy the Messiah son of Marium and his mother and all those who are on the earth?

(- 05:17 -)
Noble Quran

I used M.H. Shakir's translation there, because Arberry always renders the Arabic "Allah" as God. Not that there's anything wrong with this, but I wanted to show that the allegation here is that Christians claim that the blessed Messiah is Allah, not that he is "their god," but that he is Allah.(Note: soon I'm going to add to my "Bible and Koran" section a series of parallels I have found where the texts agree, so that Christians can see that much of the Bible is contained in the Koran just as much of it is corrected.)

link = http://www.xyapx.com/ziggyzag/proofa...otamoongod.php

wa-salam alaykum wara matulha

Oh yeah...I think there was this person who said something about this ayah:

"My lord is on the straight path" Surah hud I think.....

Anyway.....Somebody was saying something about this ayah...can't exactly remember....

ders gona b millions of refutations lol cos ...

people will keep bringin ayahs and hadiths and start MISINTERPRETIN them, all we can do is jus inshallah keep refutin them!

There is one surah which people ask alot about which says those who are christians sabians and jews if they belive in allah subhan wala tala on the last day they will enter paradise this is an ayah which people ask what does this mean does this mean that these people can enter paradise this is another refutation or a misinterpretation but inshallah if someone can compile them it will alhumdolilha be brilliant (rep me for this idea :P lol)

Originally Posted by imran_c

There is one surah which people ask alot about which says those who are christians sabians and jews if they belive in allah subhan wala tala on the last day they will enter paradise this is an ayah which people ask what does this mean does this mean that these people can enter paradise this is another refutation or a misinterpretation but inshallah if someone can compile them it will alhumdolilha be brilliant (rep me for this idea :P lol)

this is true. but once someone finds out about islam and is convinced of its truth but still refuses to accept it, that person is not counted in the above category of people.
this ayah probably came about for the case of people to whom islam had not yet reached.

Originally Posted by imran_c

There is one surah which people ask alot about which says those who are christians sabians and jews if they belive in allah subhan wala tala on the last day they will enter paradise this is an ayah which people ask what does this mean does this mean that these people can enter paradise this is another refutation or a misinterpretation but inshallah if someone can compile them it will alhumdolilha be brilliant (rep me for this idea :P lol)

Good idea bro. i think Brother Ansar Al Adl has already made a thread on apparent contradictions in the Qur'an here http://www.islamicboard.com/refutati...ons-quran.html

Also in response to your question, here's an answer for you insha'allah http://www.islamicboard.com/139684-post49.html (Alleged Contradictions in the Qur'an)

brother united that is true

But the thing is there are alot of christians who are determine to take down islam at all cost even if it means to say something against islam and which is a lie

So i think we should do all of them in one sticky so people can check them in the sticky insted of posting it. Like one question some sikh asked me was about the marriage of aisha may allah be pleased with her and i got my evidence from here to proove what ever he was saying was wrong the link i used was : http://www.whyislam.org/forum/forum_...?TID=1525&PN=1

but if we get everything compiled then inshallah this could be the source to check up for things. So its like if doing dawa on someone and that someone brings a refuation you can click this forum go to the sticky and check the surah or what ever which goes against hes refuation.

this verse is being misused:

Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and those who stir up sedition in the City, desist not, We shall certainly stir thee up against them: Then will they not be able to stay in it as thy neighbours for any length of time:
They shall have a curse on them: whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain (without mercy).

in surah 33 of the Quran, can anyone refute that?...just read it, self explanatory

Also you can read this.

Robert Morey's Moon-god Myth
& Other Deceptive Attacks on Islam
by Shabir Ali

The allegations mentioned above have already been refuted:

Moon God:

http://www.islamicboard.com/discover...-moon-god.html

Verse 2:62:

http://www.load-islam.com/artical_de...orious%20Quran

http://www.islamicboard.com/comparat...ims-alike.html (Surah 2:62 - need opinion by people of the book(jews, christians) and muslims alike)

And there are many others that have been dealt with on the forum and the www.load-islam.com site.

If there are any that have not been addressed, then feel free to bring them up in this thread Insha'Allaah.

Accusition:
Fascism is a radical totalitarian political philosophy that combines elements of corporatism, authoritarianism, extreme nationalism, militarism, anti-anarchism, anti-communism and anti-liberalism. Isn't Islam all of these things?


Rebuttal:
1. I don't fully understand corporatism, but it's not exclusive to fascism.
2. Islam is anti-nationalistic. The prophet (pbuh) even compared nationalism to biting your father's genitals.
3. Islam is slightly anachistic, as it urges obedience to Allah (swt) alone.
4. Islam is only anti-communist because communism is a man-made ideology, and because it promotes atheism. It shares many values with communism, such as equality between leaders and the people, giving to the needy, and wishing to unite all humanity. In fact, I would say Islam has much more in common with socialism and the left than fascism and the right.

From how my history teacher explains fascism, he says that fascists believe that some people are physically or naturally better or inherently worth more than others. Thus, if someone believed that whites are inherently superior to blacks, or that disabled people are worth less than the rest of people, that is fascism. Neither Islam nor any other religion I know believes these things. Islam believes that good Muslims are ideologically and morally superior to others. Islam believes that all people and races are of equal value except by piety. An Arab king who was born a Muslim could end up with less in the hereafter than a female black convert who is disabled in such a way that she cannot pray properly, or vice-versa.

Also, communism believes that it's true followers are ideologically superior to non-communists, and as we all know, communism is completely anti-fascist. I think there are quite a lot of similarities between communism and Islam. Both were started by a man who rose and awakened the masses against tyranny, both seek to unify humanity, both believe that all humans are physically equal, both have been mistreated and bad-mouthed by the West, and both have had followers who committed terrible atrocities in their name. But today people accept communists and hate Muslims.

BTW, I'm not saying that communism is compatible with or better than Islam. One of communism's demands is an atheist state, which is considered totally unacceptable by Islam. Communism is also a man-made political ideology, whilst Islam is a divinely-relvealled theological ideology.

Conclusion: Bush should not be saying Islamic fascists, but Islamic commies!

There is a statue of moon god inside Kaabah.. (they said this because no pics of inside kaabah ever seen)

Originally Posted by north_malaysian

There is a statue of moon god inside Kaabah.. (they said this because no pics of inside kaabah ever seen)

Pics of the inside of the Kaaba have been seen. No statue in there.

Originally Posted by Fishman

Pics of the inside of the Kaaba have been seen. No statue in there.

Was the Kaaba Originally a Hindu Temple?

It might come as a stunning revelation to many that the word ‘ALLAH’ itself is Sanskrit. In Sanskrit language Allah, Akka and Amba are synonyms. They signify a goddess or mother. The term ‘ALLAH’ forms part of Sanskrit chants invoking goddess Durga, also known as Bhavani, Chandi and Mahishasurmardini. The Islamic word for God is., therefore, not an innovation but the ancient Sanskrit appellation retained and continued by Islam. Allah means mother or goddess and mother goddess.

Greetings,

Originally Posted by Hijrah

this verse is being misused:

Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and those who stir up sedition in the City, desist not, We shall certainly stir thee up against them: Then will they not be able to stay in it as thy neighbours for any length of time:
They shall have a curse on them: whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain (without mercy).

in surah 33 of the Quran, can anyone refute that?...just read it, self explanatory

Are you asking someone to refute a verse from the Qur'an?

Peace