Non-Islamic Salaat? - Page 3

Scents of Jannah · **Re: Non-Islamic Salaat? -** 10-11-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by MustafaMc

I am a Muslim and I think it is a bad idea. Perhaps the intentions are good, but I see it as hypocritical at best and mocking of Islam at worst. Salah was prescribed by Allah to Muhammad (saaws) during the night journey to Jerusalem (al-Isra) and the ascension to Heaven (al-Mi'raj). It is the fundamental act that separates a believer from an unbeliever that is recognized the world over as Islamic worship of Allah. Salah begins with Bismillah Rahmani Raheem, In the Name of Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate and it does NOT end "In the name of your Son, Jesus".

As I understand it, the question was regarding the movements of the salah only.

YusufNoor · **Re: Non-Islamic Salaat? -** 10-11-2008

Benefits of Wudu: [taken from here:http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...003410AASSaHm]

Best Answer - Chosen by Asker
Asalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakathuhu.

Wudu and its medical benefits:

In a scientific study carried out by a number of medical professors of a university of one of the Arab Muslim countries it was confirmed that a person who performs Wudu’ (Ritual Ablution) five times a day cleanses his nose from germs, dust and other connected things. It was also confirmed that those who do not perform Wudu’ (Ritual Ablution) are more liable to a number of different kinds of germs, nearly 11 kinds of germs.

Undoubtedly, Wudu’ (Ritual Ablution) protects the body from mycosis in the toes, skin infections and suppurations as well as pus accumulations. It also minimizes possibility of skin cancers, as it removes chemical substances from the skin before they accumulate thereon. That is why skin cancers are rare in Islamic countries.

Also, massage of the different parts of the body, which is done in Wudu’ (Ritual Ablution), stimulates blood circulation and causes more blood to flow through the whole body, particularly to the brain and kidneys. Moreover, Wudu’ prevents mal-function of the central nerve system and activates memory. In this context, it goes without saying that in Islam Salat (Prayer) is not proper or acceptable away from purity of body, garments, and place of prayer. To this effect, Abi Malik Al-Ash’ari, quoted Allah’s Messenger, (PBUH), as saying, “Cultic purity constitutes one half of Faith. (Invoking), ‘Praise belongs to Allah!’ fills the Scale (of man’s good deeds). (Invoking), ‘Glory and Praise belong to Allah!’ fills all that is between the heavens and the earth. Salat (Prayer) is light. Charity is evidence. Patience is enlightenment. And the Quran is a proof either for you or against you. Every one goes along (a different wake of life), purchasing one’s own self: either setting it free (from sins and misdeeds) or jailing it (in sins and misdeeds).” [Narrated by Muslim (223), At-Tirmithi (3517), Ibn Majah (280), Ahmad (22953), and Ad-Darimi (653)]

By virtue of statistics carried out by the International Health Organization, the number of people that suffer from diseases caused by impurity or dirtiness was amazingly 300,000,000 people. Intentionally or unintentionally, however, Muslims, who are commanded to perform Wudu’ (Ritual Ablution), are free from such diseases, simply because Wudu’ (Ritual Ablution) prevents such diseases of impurity that are, therefore, unknown among Muslims.

It has been rightly said: “Making use of something is not part of the knowledge thereof.” In other words, it is possible that you perform Wudu’ (Ritual Ablution) by way of obedience to the Lord, Allah, All-Mighty, and, hence, you reap the good fruits thereof, even though you may not know all, or any, of the benefits of Wudu’. If you desire to get the benefits of Allah’s Divine Commands, all you have to do is to obey them, believing that they are the Absolute Good coming from Allah, All-Mighty, Most Gracious.

To sum up, when man commits himself to Allah’s Divine Religion, he is made to live in utmost happiness and prosperity, utmost welfare and protection, utmost security and safety, and utmost success and achievement. This is because welfare, all welfare, prosperity, all prosperity, success, all success, excellence, all excellence, and wisdom, all wisdom, are in obeying the Lord, Allah, All-Mighty, Most Gracious. To this effect, Allah, Glory to Him, says, “And whosoever obeys Allah and His Messenger has indeed achieved a great achievement.” [XXXIII; 71]

and of course, Allah[swt] knows best!

**Woodrow** · **Re: Non-Islamic Salaat? -** 10-13-2008

Having been raised as a strict Catholic in the 1940s I find very little differnce in the way Muslims pray and they way the old Catholics used too. I voted it is a good idea as in some ways it was my old Catholic upbringing that helped me see the beauty and truth of Islam.

The Khan · 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doorster

how do Christians of Ethiopia pray? anybody know?

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=aSkj9-...eature=related

Warning: wind & string instruments in the song.

Ethipian Orthodox Christians perform Salah thrice daily facing East. This is similar to how Sephardic Jews still pray. Ashkenazi Jews used to pray like this until a century ago, but now, however, only do so during Yom Kippur and other important fast days.

Follower

glo- LOL!! Tell her to take up yoga and continue praying in the way Jesus has taught us!!

glo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malaikah

Glo,

Did she mention her reasons for wanting to pray that way?

I think she felt the focus on a fixed ritual was helpful to her.
Incidentally, I haven't heard of she is still doing it, and how she is getting on.

She did mention that she felt a little uneasy about doing something which Muslims may perceive to be blasphemous ... which I why I asked the question here.

Thanks all, for your input! It's much appreciated.

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YusufNoor "Heretic" i reckon.. Status: Online Posts: 725 Reputation: 4194 Rep Power: 18 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tukwila, WA Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Non-Islamic Salaat? - 10-11-2008 Benefits of Wudu: [taken from here:http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...003410AASSaHm] Best Answer - Chosen by Asker Asalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakathuhu. Wudu and its medical benefits: In a scientific study carried out by a number of medical professors of a university of one of the Arab Muslim countries it was confirmed that a person who performs Wudu’ (Ritual Ablution) five times a day cleanses his nose from germs, dust and other connected things. It was also confirmed that those who do not perform Wudu’ (Ritual Ablution) are more liable to a number of different kinds of germs, nearly 11 kinds of germs. Undoubtedly, Wudu’ (Ritual Ablution) protects the body from mycosis in the toes, skin infections and suppurations as well as pus accumulations. It also minimizes possibility of skin cancers, as it removes chemical substances from the skin before they accumulate thereon. That is why skin cancers are rare in Islamic countries. Also, massage of the different parts of the body, which is done in Wudu’ (Ritual Ablution), stimulates blood circulation and causes more blood to flow through the whole body, particularly to the brain and kidneys. Moreover, Wudu’ prevents mal-function of the central nerve system and activates memory. In this context, it goes without saying that in Islam Salat (Prayer) is not proper or acceptable away from purity of body, garments, and place of prayer. To this effect, Abi Malik Al-Ash’ari, quoted Allah’s Messenger, (PBUH), as saying, “Cultic purity constitutes one half of Faith. (Invoking), ‘Praise belongs to Allah!’ fills the Scale (of man’s good deeds). (Invoking), ‘Glory and Praise belong to Allah!’ fills all that is between the heavens and the earth. Salat (Prayer) is light. Charity is evidence. Patience is enlightenment. And the Quran is a proof either for you or against you. Every one goes along (a different wake of life), purchasing one’s own self: either setting it free (from sins and misdeeds) or jailing it (in sins and misdeeds).” [Narrated by Muslim (223), At-Tirmithi (3517), Ibn Majah (280), Ahmad (22953), and Ad-Darimi (653)] By virtue of statistics carried out by the International Health Organization, the number of people that suffer from diseases caused by impurity or dirtiness was amazingly 300,000,000 people. Intentionally or unintentionally, however, Muslims, who are commanded to perform Wudu’ (Ritual Ablution), are free from such diseases, simply because Wudu’ (Ritual Ablution) prevents such diseases of impurity that are, therefore, unknown among Muslims. It has been rightly said: “Making use of something is not part of the knowledge thereof.” In other words, it is possible that you perform Wudu’ (Ritual Ablution) by way of obedience to the Lord, Allah, All-Mighty, and, hence, you reap the good fruits thereof, even though you may not know all, or any, of the benefits of Wudu’. If you desire to get the benefits of Allah’s Divine Commands, all you have to do is to obey them, believing that they are the Absolute Good coming from Allah, All-Mighty, Most Gracious. To sum up, when man commits himself to Allah’s Divine Religion, he is made to live in utmost happiness and prosperity, utmost welfare and protection, utmost security and safety, and utmost success and achievement. This is because welfare, all welfare, prosperity, all prosperity, success, all success, excellence, all excellence, and wisdom, all wisdom, are in obeying the Lord, Allah, All-Mighty, Most Gracious. To this effect, Allah, Glory to Him, says, “And whosoever obeys Allah and His Messenger has indeed achieved a great achievement.” [XXXIII; 71] and of course, Allah[swt] knows best! __________________ Had the non-believer known of all the Mercy which is in the Hands of Allah, he would not lose hope of entering Paradise, and had the believer known of all the punishment which is present with Allah, he would not consider himself safe from the Hell-Fire http://www.muftimenk.co.za/Downloads.html

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Woodrow Abdullah Muhammad Status: Offline Posts: 11,206 Reputation: 58269 Rep Power: 99 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Minnesota Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Non-Islamic Salaat? - 10-13-2008 Having been raised as a strict Catholic in the 1940s I find very little differnce in the way Muslims pray and they way the old Catholics used too. I voted it is a good idea as in some ways it was my old Catholic upbringing that helped me see the beauty and truth of Islam. __________________

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