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| Limited Member Status: Offline Posts: 15 Reputation: 18 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Oct 2008 Gender: Way of Life: Christian | Hey guys, I have come on to these forums to find out about Islam, So if you can please answer these few questions: 1. Heaven and Hell, Does one need Allah in there lifes to go to heaven because I think in the Koran it sais that Allah sent the Christian Scriptures and also why saves someone from Hell is it Faith or Works? 2. Denominations, Shiite, Sunni, I dont know how to phrase this question but ill try: Witch Muslim denomination is based on the teaching of the Koran? 3. To convert does one need to attend any ceremony or anything to approve the conversion? 4. Isreal, Who's land is it? 5. Jesus, What are you positions on Him? 6. Movies and Video games is one entitled to play watch Violent Movies/video Games? Thanks for you time I hope to learn about Islam so if you could give me the basic teaching I would appreciate it. Thanks. |
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| LI Addict Status: Offline Posts: 3,063 Reputation: 6315 Rep Power: 23 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Gender: Way of Life: Christian | Shalom, Shalom. Glad to have you here. Welcome, you are not the only Christian here, there are a few of us that have been around for long enough to know that these are questions that come up repeatedly. Some assume a few things about Islam that the Muslim brothers and sisters will probably want to correct you on before even answering the questions. And because different people have different styles in answering questions, I expect you will get a variety of different responses. I encourage you to try to listen, debate happens easily and doesn't always help us get the answers we were searching for. I'm going to let those who are Muslim speak for themselves, but I think I can get you a head start on your second question. You can't compare the differences in Sunni and Shiite to the differences between Lutherans and Presbyterians. Thus the concept of denominations isn't really present in Islam the same way that it is within Protestant Christianity. It is anchored more in the history of political authority within the Ummah than in theology. Both would say that they are based on the teachings of the Qur'an and both would recognize that to be true of the other. I think that this board is largely Sunni (though perhaps someone can correct me on that if I am wrong), but either way people try to resist being drawn into disagreements between sects. It's written right into the board's offical use guidelines. You may also find some of your questions already asked and answered in this thread: Things in Islam I'm curious about (Things in Islam I am curious about...) |
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| Limited Member Status: Offline Posts: 33 Reputation: 90 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Dec 2007 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Salam Quote:
Sahih Muslim Book 39, Number 6760: Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: None amongst you would attain salvation purely because of his deeds. A person said: Allah's Messenger, even you also. Thereupon he said: Yes. Not even I, but that Allah wraps me in Mercy, but you should act with moderation. Quote:
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103.001 وَالْعَصْرِ 103.001 By (the Token of) Time (through the ages), 103.002 إِنَّ الإنْسَانَ لَفِي خُسْرٍ 103.002 Verily Man is in loss, 103.003 إِلا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ وَتَوَاصَوْا بِالْحَقِّ وَتَوَاصَوْا بِالصَّبْرِ 103.003 Except such as have Faith, and do righteous deeds, and (join together) in the mutual teaching of Truth, and of Patience and Constancy. Al-Qur'an, 103.001-003 (Al-Asr [The Declining Day, Eventide, The Epoch]) Text Copied from DivineIslam's Qur'an Viewer software v2.910 So salvation requires 4 conditions. 1)Having faith, 2)doing righteous deeds 3)Calling others towards the right path 4)preaching patience In addition, as explained in the Hadith quoted above, we also require mercy of Allah. Quote:
006.159 إِنَّ الَّذِينَ فَرَّقُوا دِينَهُمْ وَكَانُوا شِيَعًا لَسْتَ مِنْهُمْ فِي شَيْءٍ إِنَّمَا أَمْرُهُمْ إِلَى اللَّهِ ثُمَّ يُنَبِّئُهُمْ بِمَا كَانُوا يَفْعَلُونَ 006.159 As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did. Al-Qur'an, 006.159 (Al-Anaam [Cattle, Livestock]) Text Copied from DivineIslam's Qur'an Viewer software v2.910 Quote:
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But we also say that he was neither killed nor was he crucified. He was raised up alive by Allah and he will come back to this Earth to rule it. Quote:
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| Limited Member Status: Offline Posts: 15 Reputation: 18 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Oct 2008 Gender: Way of Life: Christian | One more thing as a Christian I could feel the loveof God in my heart, I felt like I knew him, is this the same for Muslims? Do you feel like you know Allah does he give you inner peace? Thanks |
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| Full Member Status: Offline Posts: 91 Reputation: 290 Rep Power: 3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: TURKEY Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Shalom to Shalom all Well yes I personally feel like I am very close to God.That is so I try my best to obey His rules.I took every chances to search for His message to humankind.Finally I found Kuran as His last message.Now I feel very peacefull inside |
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| LI Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 1,480 Reputation: 8249 Rep Power: 29 Join Date: Dec 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
This is a distinct difference from when I was a Christian as the birth, life and death of Jesus (as) was very tangible. Since I believed then that Jesus (as) was God (may Allah forgive me), I could feel the love of that Divine Being who would sacrifice Himself for me even though I was yet a sinner. As a Christian, I had a menal image of God hanging on the cross and suffering for my own personal redemption from sin. My experience is quite different as a Muslim. Although I pray to Allah 5 times a day, I now have absolutely no mental image or picture in my mind of what Allah looks like. Occasionally, I perform my salah as if I am standing in Allah's presence and I do indeed have a very emotional experience, but much more often than not the best that I achieve is an awareness that Allah sees me although I don't see Him. | |
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| LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 302 Reputation: 1062 Rep Power: 4 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
Mustafa and Ali have summed things up pretty well on previous questions but I thought I'd just pass on the words of Allah SWT to the above question.... Say (O Muhammad SAW to mankind): "If you (really) love Allah then follow me (i.e. accept Islamic Monotheism, follow the Qur'an and the Sunnah), Allah will love you and forgive you of your sins. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." (Aali Imran 3:31) And of mankind are some who take (for worship) others besides Allah as rivals (to Allah). They love them as they love Allah. But those who believe, love Allah more (than anything else).(Al-Baqarah 2:165) This is the Book (the Qur'an), whereof there is no doubt, a guidance to those who are Al-Muttaqun [the pious and righteous persons who fear Allah much (abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds which He has forbidden) and love Allah much (perform all kinds of good deeds which He has ordained)]. (Al-Baqarah 2:2) | |
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| LI Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 1,480 Reputation: 8249 Rep Power: 29 Join Date: Dec 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | One thing that Brother coddles76's post brought to my mind is that my Islamic experience for me is less emotional than was my Christian experience. The quotes from the Qur'an show that the extent we love Allah is reflected in how closely we follow what He has ordained or prescribed for us as demonstrated by Prophet Muhammad (saaws). Likewise, the extent that we fear the Punishment of Allah is reflected in our struggles to abstain from what He has forbidden. In other words, Islam governs my entire life as opposed to giving me some "warm, fuzzy feelings" of intimate connection with God. |
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| Abdullah Muhammad Status: Offline Posts: 11,206 Reputation: 58269 Rep Power: 99 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Minnesota Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
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I believe the only way I can get to heaven is through the mercy and forgiveness of God(swt) I can not earn it I can only ask forgiveness and show my desire to repent for my sins and future sins is by doing my best to submit to the will of God(swt) There is but one God(swt) no matter what name you call Him. The same Allaah(swt) sent his message to all people and for all times.The message was the same be it sent to Muslim, Christian, Jew or Sabian. We all recognise the prophets(PBUT) Just slightly different pronunciation of the names. Quote:
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| Free Thinker Status: Offline Posts: 456 Reputation: 1774 Rep Power: 3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Royal State of Hyderabad Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
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The Differences between the Sunni and Shi'a lies with the caliphate. The Sunni believe in election of the caliph by the Shura (a bit like a parliament), while the Shi'a believe that the post must be inherited by a member of the Ahl ul-Bayt (family of the prophet), ie, a decendent of Hazrath Ali, the cousin of the prophet (SAW). The Shi'a are further split by the belief in inheritance - the Twelver and Sevener split over who should be the 7th Imam (the Imams are their "Wali" or guardians, the Twelver and Sevener believe that they divinely inherit this right, while the Fiver reject this), and the Fiver believe that ibn Zayd should have been the 5th Imam. The Twelver believe that the twelfth Imam, al-Mahdi, went to heaven and will return on the day of judgement, while the Nizari Sevener still have the Imamate till this day, Aga Khan IV being the current Imam. Personally, I have taken a different view. I believe that Muhammed (SAW) recommended Ali to the post of caliph, but did not put any compulsion. I have also accepted many Shi'a views, particularly the teachings of Ja'far al-Sadiq (6th Imam for the Twelver and 5th for the Sevener). I don't consider myself as adhering to any particular madhab. I follow Islam according to what I learn on my own. Of course, there's another denomination - the Ibadi. They initially supported Ali's caliphate, but later rejected it. They are mainly found in Oman, although small communities also exist in Libya, Algeria, Zanzibar, and the Sinai peninsula. Thus, all these differenes are mainly politcal, and also regarding interpretation of Sharia to a slight extent. There is no single denomination which is correct or wrong. We're all Muslims. Quote:
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| LI Oldtimer Status: Offline Posts: 550 Reputation: 3379 Rep Power: 7 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: 3rd Rock from the Sun Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | ^ Good post, however I wish to clarify to points. 1) It is based on both work and faith. The christian belief is not compatible, even though it was once revealed by Allah, for if it was, Islam would not have been given. 2) Their are actually, a lot of religious differences imho, from the different sects, not just political ones. The differences are very great that, groups often get takfirs, or several group doing so to eachother. |
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| Free Thinker Status: Offline Posts: 456 Reputation: 1774 Rep Power: 3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Royal State of Hyderabad Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Thanks ^^;
__________________Imho, these minor differences are irrelevant. The Shi'a pray thrice a day, combining Dhuhr - Asr and Maghrib - Isha, recite the Qunut during the second Rakah, prostrate on a natural surface, do not join their hands (like the Maliki sunni) etc. "Ashadun Aliyun Waliyullah" (i bear witness that Ali is the vice regent of Allah) is added in the adhan, although there's no compulsion. Karbala and Najaf are added as holy cities. The day of Ashura is a day of mourning for Hazrath Husayn. And , of course, the most controversial difference, the cursing of the sahaba. The Ibadi reject the reciting of the Qunut entirely, criticise Ali for his code of conduct while fighting Muawiya, but do not curse him or anyone else. They don't recite any dua after al-Fatiha during the 1st and 2nd raka'h of fardh prayer for Dhuhr and Asr. etc. Of course, within the Sunni, there are also minor differences regarding method of Salah and Sharia. Either way you look at it, all these differences are minor, and it doesn't matter in the long run. How you decide to follow Islam is between you and Allah (SWT). [Al-Qur’an 6:159] As for those who divide Their religion and break up Into sects, thou hast No part in them in the least: Their affair is with Allah: He will in the end Tell them the truth Of all that they did." ![]() Faith not supported by reason and empirical evidence is wishful thinking. All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. |
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