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    how many sons does God have???

    hmmm.....let me think....ok i think i have the answer...............NONE!!!



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    Allah hasnt got wife a dad or mum or children ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by nurofislam View Post
    how many sons does God have???

    hmmm.....let me think....ok i think i have the answer...............NONE!!!
    Exactly. The title Bene Elohim was metaphorical in it's meaning, addressed to certain of the Men who came of age. I could use the word, Imam, and it would mean almost the same thing. But this was an old Hebrew title, and it follows certain traditions. Some studies are not taught to men who are younger than 40 years old and they must be married... In this light, one would question whether or not, Jesus would have even qualified... since the Christians are always saying he never married.

    For those who are more curious about these requirements, I offer this one example (although I have compiled many more):

    "This is where some of the well-known restrictions on Kabbalah study came from -- that you have to be forty years old, married with a family, well-versed in Bible and Talmud, and so on. These rules were put into place due to a historical event, and were couched in the worldview of that historical moment. That is why I do not adhere to them as written -- I am not forty, not married, and I do not have the level of Talmudic knowledge specified in some texts."

    Source: http://www.metatronics.net/spirit/list504.htm - 4th paragraph down

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    "And if you commit shirk (associating partners with Allah) all of your works would be in vain (destroyed) and you wilt definitely be among those who are the losers". [Al-Zumar 39:65]

    "Great" people who worked towards good in this life and died in the state of disbelief have NO chance in the hereafter

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanifi View Post
    "And if you commit shirk (associating partners with Allah) all of your works would be in vain (destroyed) and you wilt definitely be among those who are the losers". [Al-Zumar 39:65]

    "Great" people who worked towards good in this life and died in the state of disbelief have NO chance in the hereafter
    Shirk? The title Bene Elohim was recorded before the Quran was written, so what sin was commited by those who used this name back then?

    Also please try to remember before you make judgements against me that this is the internet and as such, you do not know me. I could be anyone, so we should leave the matter of Judgement to Allah ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninth_Scribe View Post
    Exactly. The title Bene Elohim was metaphorical in it's meaning, addressed to certain of the Men who came of age. I could use the word, Imam, and it would mean almost the same thing. But this was an old Hebrew title, and it follows certain traditions. Some studies are not taught to men who are younger than 40 years old and they must be married... In this light, one would question whether or not, Jesus would have even qualified... since the Christians are always saying he never married.

    For those who are more curious about these requirements, I offer this one example (although I have compiled many more):

    "This is where some of the well-known restrictions on Kabbalah study came from -- that you have to be forty years old, married with a family, well-versed in Bible and Talmud, and so on. These rules were put into place due to a historical event, and were couched in the worldview of that historical moment. That is why I do not adhere to them as written -- I am not forty, not married, and I do not have the level of Talmudic knowledge specified in some texts."

    Source: http://www.metatronics.net/spirit/list504.htm - 4th paragraph down

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    hey Ninth Scribe

    well I am sure you probally already know this... or what ever... but maybe Jesus was married but metaphorically I guess (its safe for me to say).. many times in the Bible it states that Jesus will come back to take His bride back agian... idk

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    SONS OF GOD!! May allah guide you misguided ones. Allah has no son as some proved by some verses in the quran.

    (3) And say: "All the praises and thanks be to allah, Who has not begotten a son (nor an offspring), and Who has no partner in (His) Dominion, nor He is low to have a Walee (helper, protector or supporter). And magnify Him with all the magnificence, (allahu-Akbar (allah is the Most Great))."
    ( سورة الإسراء , Al-Isra, Chapter #17, Verse #111)

    And in surah maryam allah proves he has no son.

    19: 89. And they say, `The Gracious God has taken unto Himself a son.'

    19: 90. Assuredly, you have indeed uttered a most hideous thing.

    19: 91. The heavens might well-nigh burst thereat, and the earth cleave asunder, and the mountains fall down in pieces.

    19: 92. Because they ascribe a son to the Gracious God.

    19: 93. It becomes not the Gracious God that HE should take unto Himself a son.

    19: 94. There is none in the heavens and the earth but he shall come to the Gracious God as a bondman.

    19: 95. Verily, HE comprehends them by HIS knowledge and has numbered them all fully.

    19: 96. And each of them shall come to HIM on the Day of Resurrection, all alone.

    Edit:

    I forgot about surah nisa.


    5:75
    The Messiah, son of Mary, was no more that a Messenger, many were Messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a believing woman. They both used to eat food. Look at how We make the proofs and evidences clear to them, yet look at how they are deluded away.

    3:59
    'Verily, the likeness of Jesus before God is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then said to him, 'Be!' and he was'.

    5:72
    Indeed they reject the truth who say 'God is Christ the son of Mary'. For indeed Christ said worship God, who is my God and your God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah4ever View Post


    SONS OF GOD!! May allah guide you misguided ones. Allah has no son as some proved by some verses in the quran.

    (3) And say: "All the praises and thanks be to allah, Who has not begotten a son (nor an offspring), and Who has no partner in (His) Dominion, nor He is low to have a Walee (helper, protector or supporter). And magnify Him with all the magnificence, (allahu-Akbar (allah is the Most Great))."
    ( سورة الإسراء , Al-Isra, Chapter #17, Verse #111)

    And in surah maryam allah proves he has no son.

    19: 89. And they say, `The Gracious God has taken unto Himself a son.'

    19: 90. Assuredly, you have indeed uttered a most hideous thing.

    19: 91. The heavens might well-nigh burst thereat, and the earth cleave asunder, and the mountains fall down in pieces.

    19: 92. Because they ascribe a son to the Gracious God.

    19: 93. It becomes not the Gracious God that HE should take unto Himself a son.

    19: 94. There is none in the heavens and the earth but he shall come to the Gracious God as a bondman.

    19: 95. Verily, HE comprehends them by HIS knowledge and has numbered them all fully.

    19: 96. And each of them shall come to HIM on the Day of Resurrection, all alone.
    may I ask you what is your input on the term "son"?

    I think the Quran was trying to clear up the misunderstanding for those who actually thought that God took sexual relations with a human being... and then had a son
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    Son as you say by jesus is the son of god... like his offspring


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah4ever View Post


    Son as you say by jesus is the son of god... like his offspring
    well then that is where you are misunderstanding the term... not us

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    Some1 in the begining posted verses of the bible saying god had a son...


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    Or like the trinity, how christians say he is god....


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    well then that is clearly blasphmous as God is spirit and flesh gives birth to flesh.

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    PRIM3 wat do u believe? do u believe that jesus was god?


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    Default Re: How many 'Sons' does God have?

    well first--- I believe he is a Prophet, The Predicted Massiah( annointed one ) and the Image of the Invisible God
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