This thread is to be strictly Q&A no validation is being asked why something is believed. It is simply an oppotunity for members of The Christian faith to state what they believe, with no need to explain why. Anyone with questions about Christianity please ask them here. Christians if you feel capable please answer such questions here.

If anyone feels that any question or answer needs to be debated, please start a new thread regarding that. Let us try to keep this thread open for honest Questions and honest answers, with no need to explain.


My question:

How many Christian denominations are there and does each have different beliefs?

Will Jesus return, and if he will what will be his purpose?

We are getting off track. Let us try to leave debates out of this thread and carry them over to seperate threads. I think it would be nice if this could be kept as an open thread just for the expressing of ones beliefs without fear of rebuttal.

Debating and stating opinions are 2 seperate topics.

yeah your right. My original question was of general interets though, i want to know about Christians beliefs on signs of day of judgemenmt and what they think Jesus PBUh will do when he comes back

How did we get side tracked into this non-debate thread being turned into a debate about Gays?

One question that i've always wanted to ask a christian is: how did you come to this way of worship that includes 'clasping of hands'.Is it mentioned in the bible?

thanks.

Are all versions of the Bible True? If not which of these are true?

Abbreviated Bible - TAB - 1971, eliminates duplications, includes the Apocrypha
American Standard Version - ASV - 1901, a.k.a. Standard American Edition, Revised Version, the American version of the Holy Bible, Revised Version
American Translation (Beck) - AAT - 1976
American Translation (Smith-Goodspeed) - SGAT - 1931
Amplified Bible - AB - 1965, includes explanation of words within text
Aramaic Bible (Targums) - ABT - 1987, originally translated from the Hebrew into the Aramaic
Aramaic New Covenant - ANCJ - 1996, a translation and transliteration of the New Covenant
Authentic New Testament - ANT - 1958
Barclay New Testament - BNT - 1969
Basic Bible - TBB - 1950, based upon a vocabulary of 850 words
Bible Designed to Be Read as Literature - BDRL - 1930, stresses literary qualities of the Bible, includes the Apocrypha
Bible Reader - TBR - 1969, an interfaith version, includes the Apocrypha
Cassirer New Testament - CNT - 1989
Centenary Translation of the New Testament - CTNT - 1924, one of the few versions translated solely by a woman
Common English New Testament - CENT - 1865
Complete Jewish Bible - CJB - 1989, a Messianic Jewish translation
Concordant Literal New Testament - CLNT - 1926
Confraternity of Christian Doctrine Translation - CCDT - 1953, includes the Apocrypha
Contemporary English Version - CEV - 1992, includes Psalms and Proverbs
Coptic Version of the New Testament - CVNT - 1898, based on translations from northern Egypt
Cotton Patch Version - CPV - 1968, based on American ideas and Southern US culture, only contains Paul's writings
Coverdale Bible - TCB - 1540, includes the Apocrypha
Darby Holy Bible - DHB - 1923
Dartmouth Bible - TDB - 1961, an abridgment of the King James Version, includes the Apocrypha
De Nyew Testament in Gullah - NTG - 2005
Dead Sea Scrolls Bible - DSSB - 1997, translated from Dead Sea Scrolls documents, includes the Apocrypha
Documents of the New Testament - DNT - 1934
Douay-Rheims Bible - DRB - 1899
Emphasized Bible - EBR - 1959, contains signs of emphasis for reading
Emphatic Diaglott - EDW - 1942
English Standard Version - ESV - 2001, a revision of the Revised Standard Version
English Version for the Deaf - EVD - 1989, a.k.a. Easy-to-Read Version, designed to meet the special needs of the deaf
English Version of the Polyglott Bible - EVPB - 1858, the English portion of an early Bible having translations into several languages
Geneva Bible - TGB - 1560, the popular version just prior to the translation of the King James Version, includes the Apocrypha
Godbey Translation of the New Testament - GTNT - 1905
God's Word - GW - 1995, a.k.a Today's Bible Translation
Holy Bible in Modern English - HBME - 1900
Holy Bible, Revised Version - HBRV - 1885, an official revision of the King James Version which was not accepted at the time
Holy Scriptures (Harkavy) - HSH - 1951
Holy Scriptures (Leeser) - HSL - 1905
Holy Scriptures (Menorah) - HSM - 1973, a.k.a. Jewish Family Bible
Inclusive Version - AIV - 1995, stresses equality of the sexes and physically handicapped, includes Psalms
Inspired Version - IV - 1867, a revision of the King James Version
Interlinear Bible (Green) - IB - 1976, side-by-side Hebrew/Greek and English
International Standard Version - ISV - 1998
Jerusalem Bible (Catholic) - TJB - 1966, includes the Apocrypha
Jerusalem Bible (Koren) - JBK - 1962, side-by-side Hebrew and English
Jewish Bible for Family Reading - JBFR - 1957, includes the Apocrypha
John Wesley New Testament - JWNT - 1755, a correction of the King James Version
King James Version - KJV - 1611, a.k.a. Authorized Version, originally included the Apocrypha
Kleist-Lilly New Testament - KLNT - 1956
Knox Translation - KTC - 1956, includes the Apocrypha
Lamsa Bible - LBP - 1957, based on Pe****ta manuscripts
Lattimore New Testament - LNT - 1962, a literal translation
Letchworth Version in Modern English - LVME - 1948
Living Bible - LB - 1971, a paraphrase version
McCord's New Testament Translation of the Everlasting Gospel - MCT - 1989
Message - TM - 1993, a.k.a. New Testament in Contemporary English, a translation in the street language of the day, includes Psalms and Proverbs
Modern Reader's Bible - MRB - 1923, stresses literary qualities, includes the Apocrypha
Modern Speech New Testament - MSNT - 1902, an attempt to present the Bible in effective, intelligible English
Moffatt New Translation - MNT - 1922
New American Bible - NAB - 1987, includes the Apocrypha
New American Standard Version - NAS - 1977
New Berkeley Version in Modern English - NBV - 1967
New Century Version - NCV - 1987
New English Bible - NEB - 1970, includes the Apocrypha
New Evangelical Translation - NET - 1992, a translation aimed at missionary activity
New International Version - NIV - 1978
New Jerusalem Bible - NJB - 1985, includes the Apocrypha
New JPS Version - NJPS - 1988
New King James Version - NKJ - 1990
New Life Version - NLV - 1969, a translation designed to be useful wherever English is used as a second language
New Living Translation - NLT - 1996, a dynamic-equivalence translation
New Millenium Bible - NMB - 1999, a contemporary English translation
New Revised Standard Version - NRS - 1989, the authorized revision of the Revised Standard Version
New Testament in Plain English - WPE - 1963, a version using common words only
New Testament: An Understandable Version - NTUV - 1995, a limited edition version
New Translation (Jewish) - NTJ - 1917
New World Translation - NWT - 1984
Noli New Testament - NNT - 1961, the first and only book of its kind by an Eastern Orthodox translator at the time of its publication
Norlie's Simplified New Testament - NSNT - 1961, includes Psalms
Original New Testament - ONT - 1985, described by publisher as a radical translation and reinterpretation
Orthodox Jewish Brit Chadasha - OJBC - 1996, an Orthodox version containing Rabbinic Hebrew terms
People's New Covenant - PNC - 1925, a version translated from the meta-physical standpoint
Phillips Revised Student Edition - PRS - 1972
Recovery Version - RcV - 1991, a reference version containing extensive notes
Reese Chronological Bible - RCB - 1980, an arrangement of the King James Version in chronological order
Restoration of Original Sacred Name Bible - SNB - 1976, a version whose concern is the true name and titles of the creator and his son
Restored New Testament - PRNT - 1914, a version giving an interpretation according to ancient philosophy and psychology
Revised English Bible - REB - 1989, a revision of the New English Bible
Revised Standard Version - RSV - 1952, a revision of the American Standard Version
Riverside New Testament - RNT - 1923, written in the living English language of the time of the translation
Sacred Scriptures, Bethel Edition - SSBE - 1981, the sacred name and the sacred titles and the name of Yahshua restored to the text of the Bible
Scholars Version - SV - 1993, a.k.a. Five Gospels; contains evaluations of academics of what are, might be, and are not, the words of Jesus; contains the four gospels and the Gospel of Thomas
Scriptures (ISR) - SISR - 1998, traditional names replaced by Hebraic ones and words with pagan sources replaced
Septuagint - LXX - c. 200 BCE, the earliest version of the Old Testament scriptures, includes the Apocrypha
Shorter Bible - SBK - 1925, eliminates duplications
Spencer New Testament - SCM - 1941
Stone Edition of the Tanach - SET - 1996, side-by-side Hebrew and English
Swann New Testament - SNT - 1947, no chapters, only paragraphs, with verses numbered consecutively from Matthew to Revelation
Today's English New Testament - TENT - 1972
Today's English Version - TEV - 1976, a.k.a. Good News Bible
Twentieth Century New Testament - TCNT - 1904
Unvarnished New Testament - UNT - 1991, the principal sentence elements kept in the original order of the Greek
Versified Rendering of the Complete Gospel Story - VRGS - 1980, the gospel books written in poetic form, contains the four gospels
Westminster Version of the Sacred Scriptures - WVSS - 1929
Wiclif Translation - TWT - 1380, a very early version translated into English
William Tindale Newe Testament - WTNT - 1989, an early version with spelling and punctuation modernized
William Tyndale Translation - WTT - 1530, early English version, includes the Pentateuch
Williams New Testament - WNT - 1937, a translation of the thoughts of the writers with a reproduction of their diction and style
Word Made Fresh - WMF - 1988, a paraphrase with humour and familiar names and places for those who have no desire to read the Bible
Worrell New Testament - WAS - 1904
Wuest Expanded Translation - WET - 1961, intended as a comparison to, or commentary on, the standard translations
Young's Literal Translation, Revised Edition - YLR - 1898, a strictly literal translation

All the Books of the Old and New Testaments (Purver, 1764)
Analytical-Literal Translation, The (not yet published)
Aramaic Bible (Alexander, not yet published)
Bible, The (Barker, 1615)
Bible in Living English (Byington, 1972)
Bible Revised (Barham, 1850)
Bishop's Bible (1568)
Black Bible Chronicles (McCary, 1993)
Book of the New Covenant (Penn, 1836)
Christian Community Bible (Grogan, 1995)
Christian's Bible (Lefevre, 1928)
Clementine Edition (1790)
Commonly Received Version of the New Testament (Cone, 1850)
Complutensian Bible
Cotton Patch New Testament (Jordan, 1970)
Cranmer Version
David Macrae Translation (Macrae, 1799)
Dramatized Bible (Perry, 1989)
English Translation of the Bible (Mace, 1729)
Family Expositor (Dodderidge, 1755)
Good News of Our Lord Jesus, the Anointed (Whiting, 1849)
Great Bible (Grafton and Whitchurch)
Hebrew Name Bible
Holy Bible (Bellamy, 1818)
Holy Bible (Conquest, 1841)
Holy Bible (Forshall, 1850)
Holy Bible (Fry, 1812)
Holy Bible (Geddes, 1797)
Holy Bible (Madden, 1850)
Holy Bible (Sharpe, 1892)
Holy Bible (Julia Smith, 1876)
Holy Bible (Thomson)
Holy Bible (Wordsworth, 1885)
Holy Bible: An Improved Edition (American Bible Union, 1912)
Holy Bible Containing the Old and the New Testaments (Sawyer, 1862)
Holy Bible with Amendments (Webster, 1833)
Holy Scriptures (Leeser, 1855)
Holy Scriptures (Wellbeloved, 1859)
Interlinear Literal Translation of the Hebrew Old Testament (George Richter Berry)
Jewish Bible (Kaplan)
Jewish School and Family Bible (Benisch, 1861)
Liberal Translation of the New Testament (Harwood)
Matthew's Bible
Mr. Whiston's Primitive New Testament (Whiston, 1745)
Modern Bible Version (Pratt / American Bible Society, 1893)
Modern King James Version of the Holy Bible (McGraw-Hill, 1962)
New and Corrected Version of the New Testament (****inson, 1833)
New Dispensation: The New Testament (Weekes, 1897)
New Family Bible (Boothroyd, 1833)
New International Reader's Version (1995)
New Literal Translation (MacKnight, 1795)
New Testament (Belsham, 1809)
New Testament (Bowes, 1870)
New Testament (Brotherhood Authentic Bible Society)
New Testament (Campbell, 1826)
New Testament (Clementson, 1938)
New Testament (Cunnington)
New Testament (Greber, 1937)
New Testament (Haweis, 1795)
New Testament (Highton, 1862)
New Testament (Hollybushe, 1538)
New Testament (Jefferson, 1820)
New Testament (Joye)
New Testament (Kneeland, 1822)
New Testament (Morgan, 1848)
New Testament (Murdock, 1851)
New Testament (Panin / Bible Numerics, 1914)
New Testament (Richter, 1877)
New Testament (Scarlett, 1798)
New Testament (Sharpe, 1856)
New Testament (Simon, 1730)
New Testament (Thorn, 1861)
New Testament (Wakefield, 1791)
New Testament (W. Williams, 1812)
New Testament (Wynne, 1764)
New Testament in an Improved Version (1808)
New Testament of Our Messiah and Saviour Yashua (Traina, 1950)
New Testament or New Covenant (Worsley, 1770)
New Translation (Archbishop Newcome)
New Version of All the Books of the New Testament (Batly and Chandler, 1726)
Newe Testament of Our Saviour Jesu Christe (Jugge, 1552)
Numberical Bible (Grant)
Old and New Testaments (J. Clarke and Co., 1899)
Old Covenant, The (Thompson, 1808)
Old Testament Scriptures (Spurrell, 1885)
Poetic Bible, The (Gray, 1973)
Pulpit Bible, The (Parker, 1937)
Revised Translation and Interpretation of the Sacred Scriptures (Ray, 1799)
Revised Translation of the Old Testament (Cookesley, 1859)
Rheims-Challoner Version
Semitic New Testament (Trimm)
Short Bible, A (Farrer, 1956)
Taverner's Bible (Taverner, 1759)
Thomas Cromwell Version (1539)
Translation of the New Testament (Scarlett, 1798)
Translator's New Testament (1975)
World English Bible

Some of these may be duplicated in the above list.

(AAT) The Complete Bible: An American Translation, by Edgar Goodspeed and J. M. Powis Smith, 1939.
(ABT) The Afro Bible Translation
(ATB) The Alternate Translation Bible
(ASV) American Standard Version (purchase ASV)
(AB) The Amplified Bible (editions for sale)
(ALT) Analytical-Literal Translation
(ASL) American Sign Language Translation
(AV) Authorized Version (same as KJV)
(Bar) The New Testament: A New Translation, by William Barclay
(BLB) The Better Life Bible
(BWE) Bible in WorldWide English
The Bible Gateway Translation Information (see BWE description)
(CCB) Christian Community Bible
(CE) The Common Edition: New Testament
(CJB) Complete Jewish Bible
Comparison with NIV
(CV) Concordant Version
(CEV) Contemporary English Version
CEV online
Energion review
Interview: On the Shoulders of King James
Ken Anderson review
Michael Marlow review
Tyndale website overview
(Dar) Darby
(DR) Douay-Rheims
(DRP) David Robert Palmer's translations of the gospels
(EMTV) English Majority Text Version
(ENT) Extreme New Testament (revision of Simple English Bible, below)
Forward, by Tommy Tenney
(ERV) Easy-to-Read Version
(ESV) English Standard Version
(FF) Ferrar Fenton Bible
(GLW) God's Living Word
(GNC) God's New Covenant: A New Testament Translation, by Heinz W. Cassirer
(GNT) Good News Translation [formerly, (GNB) Good News Bible, and (TEV) Today's English Version]
(GW) God's Word
God's Word online
Review of God's Word, by Wayne Leman
(HCSB) Holman Christian Standard Bible (online, see Access Bibles section, below
article
(HNV) Hebrew Names Version
(ICB) International Children's Bible (children's version of the NCV)
(ISB) International Standard Bible (formerly titled The Simple English Bible)
(ISV) The International Standard Version
ISV Naturalness and Comprehension Survey, by Phil Fields
(JBP) New Testament in Modern English, by J.B. Phillips
New Testament in Modern English, Revised, by J.B. Phillips
Student edition
The J. B. Phillips Translation: A Guided Tour
(JNT) Jewish New Testament: A Translation of the New Testament That Expresses Its Jewishness (see Complete Jewish Bible)
(JPS) Jerusalem Publication Society: Tanakh: The Holy Scriptures, The New JPS Translation According to the Traditional Hebrew Text

(KJV) King James Version and recent revisions
KJV
Translators to the Reader

(DKJB) Defined King James Bible
DKJB reviewed by Joseph Ng
DKJB reviewed by David W. Cloud
(KJII) King James Version II (renamed to Literal Translation of the Holy Bible)
(KJ21) King James for the 21st Century
KJV21 review
(KJ2000) King James 2000
(LITV) The Literal Translation of the Holy Bible (formerly named King James II)
LITV download site
The Literal Translation of the Holy Bible Frequently Asked Questions
(MKJV) Modern King James Version
alternate site
MKJV download site
(NKJV) New King James Version
(RAV) Revised Authorised Version (British edition of the NKJV), review
(RKJV) Revised King James New Testament
(TMB) The Third Millennium Bible
(UKJV) Updated King James Version

(LITV) The Literal Translation of the Holy Bible (see under KJV and recent revisions)
(LB) Living Bible
(MAEV) Modern American English Vernacular
discussion list for MAEV
(MLB) Modern Language Bible: New Berkeley Version
(Mof) Bible: James Moffatt Translation (amazon.com)
(NAB) New American Bible
"The New American Bible": A Voice From the Past
(NAB) New American Bible (access entire Bible)
(NASB) New American Standard Bible
What is the philosophy of translation set forth by The Lockman Foundation?
New Berkeley Version (see Modern Language Bible)
(NCV) New Century Version
(NEB) New English Bible
(NET) New English Translation
NET Bible online
Try the NET Bible! (a critique)
An Open Letter Regarding The NET Bible, New Testament (a reply to the critique)
(NET) New Evangelical Translation
(NIrV) New Internation Reader's Version
(NIV) New International Version
The NIV: The Making of a Contemporary Translation
(NJB) New Jerusalem Bible
(NKJV) New King James Version (see under KJV and recent revisions)
(NLV) New Life Version
(NLT) New Living Translation
The Living Bible Reborn
Re: New Living Translation (a review)
(NRSV) New Revised Standard Bible
NRSV critiqued by John H. Dobson
(NWT) New World Translation (published by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of the Jehovah's Witnesses)
(OBP) The Original Bible Project
(OSB) Orthodox Study Bible
(ONT) The Original New Testament: The First Definitive Translation of the New Testament in 2000 Years, by Hugh Schonfield
(PMB) Postmodern Bible - Amos
(Rec) Recovery Version
(REB) The Revised English Bible (revision of NEB)
(RSV) Revised Standard Version
(RV) Revised Version, 1885
(RYLT) Revised Young's Literal Translation
(Sch) The Schocken Bible
(SEB) The Simple English Bible
(SENT) Spoken English New Testament
(TM) The Message
A Summary Critique: The Message, by John R. Kohlenberger III
(TMB) The Third Millennium Bible
(TEV) Today's English Version [see (GNT) Good News Translation]
Book Review: Today's English Version (TEV)
(TNIV) Today's New International Version
TNIV website
TNIV Debate Between Dr. Wayne Grudem and Dr. Mark Strauss
TNIV links
(Tyn) Tyndale
(Wey) Weymouth
Preface to the First Edition
(WEB) World English Bible
(Wms) The New Testament in the Language of the People, by Charles B. Williams (another website)
(WNT) Wesley's New Testament
(Wuest) The New Testament (An Expanded Translation) purchase
Yes Word (update of Tyndale translation)
(YLT) Young's Literal Translation of the Bible (download entire text)
view Young's Literal Translation of the Bible
Preface to the First Edition

I was once a Christian, as a Christian. I remember thinking of God being the all mighty and Jesus as a different entity but sitting next to God on the thrown. It has, however, been a long time.

Lately I have been hearing claims that Jesus is God himself. Is that true?
If not, why do people pray to Jesus, not his father?

Is that breaking the first commandment?
“You shall have no other gods before me.”

Why do Christians worship on Sunday, the first say of the week?

The ordinal Sabbath was on Saturday. Even Jesus worshiped on Saturday (or Friday sunset to Saturday sunset) And is that braking the third commandment?
“Observe the sabbath day, to keep it holy, as the LORD your God commanded you. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work; but the seventh day is a sabbath to the LORD your God."

LOL
Woodrow, that's not so much a question, but an underlying criticism of the translations of the Bible - or am I wrong?

I must say I didn't know there were so many versions!
Can you verify hat none of these are 'made up'?

I clearly cannot answer your question.
How many of these versions have you come across, or read in your time?
I know the King James Version and the New International Version.

Peace.

Here's a question.

During easter what goes on in the church?

(I really have not seen the ritual I will like to know)

Woodrow, that's not so much a question, but an underlying criticism of the translations of the Bible - or am I wrong?

I was going to phrase the question as to how come there are so many version. But, this is more visual as to what I mean. Not so much being criticalc as trying to show what many of us see, when we try to find out what is a Bible. When I was Christian, I used 3 versions, The latin Vulgate, The KJV and a Greek Version. I still have them.

I must say I didn't know there were so many versions!
Can you verify hat none of these are 'made up'?

Those are just the English ones currently available through Barnes & Noble. Actually, only used by the Western Christians. There are many more English Versions. I am aware of over a thousand versions, but these are the only ones that I can show are currently available through book stores. The differnces are not just translation differnces. Big variations as to what books are included as the Bible.

If you go into the Versions used in the Eastern Christian Churches, there are Many more, as they began strictly with the Greek and did not go through the Latin, or English phases or the KJV reformation stages. I suspect that the Early Greek versions are most closely similar to the Original Aramaic. But even so through out the different denominations there are many versions varying by what books are included and how different translators had different interpretations.

This is not a back lashing, insulting contest, if you think otherwise; I suggest you re-read the purpose of this board. I’m giving every precipitant of this thread the benefit of the doubt and thus will not close the thread as it can be beneficial with the right attitude.

I suggest you all grow up and discuss in a good manner, if you can’t do that then perhaps you should not join in the discussion.

Look at the point of the thread, don’t go off-topic!



regards

Silver Pearl