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| LI Oldskool   Status: Offline Posts: 7,154 Reputation: 25299 Rep Power: 56   Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ~ Daar as-Sa'aadah ~ Gender:  Way of Life: Muslim |  When is Harshness Applied in Da'wah -
02-27-2007
When is Harshness Applied in Da'wah Shaykh Rabee ibn Haadee al-Madkhalee When is lenience and when is harshness applied in Da'wah when interacting with people? The standard in Da'wah is applying lenience, gentleness and wisdom, this is the basis may Allaah bless you. There are those who oppose and deny the truth, you establish the evidence upon them but they refuse [to accept the truth], this is when you use refutations. If you were a ruler and he was a caller, you may discipline him with the sword (authority). This may lead to his execution if he is persistent in propagating his falsehood. There are some scholars who hold the opinion that this person is worse than brigands. So he is to be advised and the evidence is to be established upon him. If he refuses to accept [the truth], the legislated authority is to punish him by imprisoning, banishing or even by executing him. Al Jahm ibn Safwaan, Bishr al Mareesee, Al Ja'd ibn Dirham and others were sentenced to death, may Allaah bless you. This is the ruling of the 'Ulamaa over those who oppose and persist on propagating their innovations. If Allaah benefits them [through advice] and they return [to the truth], then this is what is intended. Translator: Nadir Ahmad, Abu Abdul-Waahid إنما الدين بالآثار وليس بالرأي ~ خير الناس قرني، ثم الذين يلونهم ثم الذين يلونهم ~ إن هذا العلم دين فانظروا عمن تأخذون دينكم |
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| a.k.a ruwaydah   Status: Offline Posts: 2,146 Reputation: 6680 Rep Power: 24 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: eerrmmmm hmmm Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: When is Harshness Applied in Da'wah -
03-08-2007
mashaAllah, jazaAllah khayr.
__________________ وَمَنْ أَعْرَضَ عَن ذِكْرِي فَإِنَّ لَهُ مَعِيشَةً ضَنكاً وَنَحْشُرُهُ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ أَعْمَى() قَالَ رَبِّ لِمَ حَشَرْتَنِي أَعْمَى وَقَدْ كُنتُ بَصِير)( قَالَ كَذَلِكَ أَتَتْكَ آيَاتُنَا فَنَسِيتَهَا وَكَذَلِكَ الْيَوْمَ تُنسَى |
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| nusrat fanatic  Status: Offline Posts: 5,925 Reputation: 22475 Rep Power: 47 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California Way of Life: Agnostic | Re: When is Harshness Applied in Da'wah -
03-09-2007
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you are talking about giving dawah - when the target refuses - are you saying his very refusal constitutes "propagating" his belief system? if so: so much for no compulsion in religion. so much for islam not being spread by the sword. so you come to give me dawah all nice-like and when i persist in my kafir beliefs, my refusal is viewed as the same as propagating my unbelief? unwillingness to revert is not the same as propagating "kafirism". i think (hope) i missed something here because this contradicts other things i have read. thanks. each man thinks of his own fleas as gazelles question authority  | |
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| LI Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 7,154 Reputation: 25299 Rep Power: 56 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ~ Daar as-Sa'aadah ~ Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: When is Harshness Applied in Da'wah -
03-16-2007
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Indeed you did.  Lol. Obviously here propogating falsehood is not believing in it, and not spreading it amongst the people. That's a different matter all together. And the amount of punishment excercised by the ruler depends on the seriousness of what is being said - I presume.إنما الدين بالآثار وليس بالرأي ~ خير الناس قرني، ثم الذين يلونهم ثم الذين يلونهم ~ إن هذا العلم دين فانظروا عمن تأخذون دينكم | |
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| Newbie  Status: Offline Posts: 7,887 Reputation: 26439 Rep Power: 55 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ka zik stan Way of Life: Muslim | Re: When is Harshness Applied in Da'wah -
03-23-2007
AsalamuALaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh,
__________________JazakAllah khair, Nice threads sister WalaykumSalaam Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh. If you're happy and you know it, say 'Allahu Akbar' If you're you're happy and you know it say 'Allahu Akbar' If you're happy and you know it and you really wana show it, if you're happy and you know it shout 'Allahu Akbar!!!'  |
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| LI Senior Member  Status: Offline Posts: 136 Reputation: 456 Rep Power: 5 Join Date: Aug 2007 Gender:  Way of Life: Muslim | Re: When is Harshness Applied in Da'wah -
10-28-2007
This is what I was talking about on some other thread sister Al Muwahhidah but anyway, nice thread.Quote:
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