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    Personally, I believe in reincarnation, an afterlife, and ghosts. The human soul is something I firmly believe in, so it can't be that once people die, that's that. I can't begin to comprehend what the next world is. Religion describes it as the ultimate reward or the ultimate punishment. Though, in Judaism, Hell isn't usually eternal. It can also just be becoming part of the world's spiritual energy. I lean towards the former. For reincarnation, my best guess is that the soul of that person hasn't fulfilled his/her purpose on the mortal world or are given a second chance for a good place in the next world, but it can't be an endless cycle. There has to be a time when the soul is allowed to rest. The last scenario is becoming ghosts. While I've never seen one, I'm sure they exist. Some people have a stronger spiritual sense than others. Ghosts, I think are souls of people who either have too strong of an attachment to someone or something on the physical world, or one of their loved ones can't let them go. Therefore, they cannot cross over.



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    If you're interested this is what we beleive in islam, its in alot of detail

    Resurrection after death
    After death, until Yaum Al-Qiyama, are the human beings reborn in any other form?.


    Praise be to Allaah.

    When the son of Adam dies, his body disintegrates and vanishes apart from the tailbone, which is a bone at the base of the spine. When the Resurrection begins, Allaah will cause the bodies to grow by means of rain from the earth which will make these bones grow until each person’s body is restored to the way it was before he died.

    It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, ‘What is between the two Trumpet-blasts will be forty.’ Somebody asked, ‘Forty days?’ But I could not answer. Then he asked, ‘Forty months?’ But I could not answer. Then he asked, ‘Forty years?’ But I could not answer.” Abu Hurayrah added, “Then (after this period) Allah will send water from the sky and then the dead bodies will grow like vegetation grows. There is nothing of the human body that does not decay except one bone; that is the little bone at the end of the coccyx from which the human body will be recreated on the Day of Resurrection.”

    (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 4651; Muslim, 2955).

    Al-Nawawi said:

    “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, ‘What is between the two Trumpet-blasts will be forty.’ Somebody asked, ‘Forty days?’ But I could not answer…” What is meant is that he refused to specify whether it would be forty days, or years, or months. Rather what he was sure of was that it would be just forty. It is explained in another report narrated by someone other than Muslim, which says that it will be forty years.

    The phrase “the little bone at the end of the coccyx” refers to the small bone at the base of the spine, which is the end of the coccyx. This is the first part of a person that is created, and it is what will be left of him so that he will be created anew from it.

    Sharh Muslim, 18/92

    When a person comes forth from his grave and is gathered and brought to account, his body will remain the same as it was before he died. Then when the people of Paradise enter Paradise and the people of Hell enter Hell, Allaah will change their forms.

    Description of the people of Hell:

    It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The distance between the shoulders of the kaafir [in Hell] will be that of three days’ swift travelling.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 6186; Muslim, 2852).

    It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The molar of the kaafir – or the eyetooth of the kaafir – will be like Uhud, and his skin will be as thick as three days’ travelling.” (Narrated by Muslim, 2851).

    Description of the people of Paradise:

    It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The first group to enter Paradise will look like the moon when it is full; then those who follow them will look like the brightest star in the sky. They will not urinate or defecate, spit or blow their noses. Their combs will be of gold, their sweat will be musk, their incense burners will be of aloes-wood. Their wives will be al-hoor al-‘iyn and they will all look alike, like their father Adam, sixty cubits tall.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3149; Muslim, 2834)

    It was narrated from Mu’aadh ibn Jabal that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The people of Paradise will enter Paradise hairless and beardless, with kohl-rimmed eyes, all thirty or thirty-three years old.” (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 2545).

    This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami’, 8072.

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    Hi Boaz

    I didn't think reincarnation (as in the Rebirth of the soul in another body/life) was part of mainstream Jewish beliefs.
    I had always associated it more with Eastern religions, such as Hinduism or Buddhism.


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    I'm culturally Jewish, but I have my own relationship with God.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Boaz View Post
    Personally, I believe in reincarnation, an afterlife, and ghosts. The human soul is something I firmly believe in, so it can't be that once people die, that's that. I can't begin to comprehend what the next world is. Religion describes it as the ultimate reward or the ultimate punishment. Though, in Judaism, Hell isn't usually eternal. It can also just be becoming part of the world's spiritual energy. I lean towards the former. For reincarnation, my best guess is that the soul of that person hasn't fulfilled his/her purpose on the mortal world or are given a second chance for a good place in the next world, but it can't be an endless cycle. There has to be a time when the soul is allowed to rest. The last scenario is becoming ghosts. While I've never seen one, I'm sure they exist. Some people have a stronger spiritual sense than others. Ghosts, I think are souls of people who either have too strong of an attachment to someone or something on the physical world, or one of their loved ones can't let them go. Therefore, they cannot cross over.
    I didn't know judaism had a concept of hell

    According to islam there is an afterlife and the existence of souls, but theres no second chance for you or your soul this is it in this world.

    Here's a verse from the Quran regarding souls

    When people sleep (and sleep is the “lesser death”), the soul is taken, but not completely, so the sleeper is still alive. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “It is Allaah Who takes away the souls at the time of their death, and those that die not during their sleep, He keeps those (souls) for which He has ordained death and sends the rest for a term appointed. Verily, in this are signs for a people who think deeply.” [al-Zumar 39:42]
    You can read more about it here http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/4395/soul



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    The last scenario is becoming ghosts. While I've never seen one, I'm sure they exist. Some people have a stronger spiritual sense than others. Ghosts, I think are souls of people who either have too strong of an attachment to someone or something on the physical world, or one of their loved ones can't let them go. Therefore, they cannot cross over.
    As per islamic ,Ghost dont exists . its only the jinns that roanm around in the physical world


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    Quote Originally Posted by Airforce View Post
    As per islamic ,Ghost dont exists . its only the jinns that roanm around in the physical world
    True. Ghosts are actually the djinns that pretend to be some deceased souls to trick humans.

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    A Grave World

    We will now take a brief look at the journey of the soul after death. This is truly an amazing story, all the more so because it is true and one which we all must take. The sheer depth of knowledge we have concerning this journey, its precision and detail, is a manifest sign that Muhammad was truly God’s Last Messenger to humanity. The revelation he received and then communicated to us from His Lord is as unambiguous in its description of the afterlife as it comprehensive. Our glimpse into this knowledge will begin with a brief exploration of the journey of the believing soul from the moment of death to its final resting place in Paradise.
    When a believer is about to depart this world, angels with white faces come down from the heavens and say:
    “O peaceful soul, come out to forgiveness from God and His pleasure.” (Hakim and others)
    The believer will look forward to meeting his Creator, as the Prophet, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, explained:
    “…when the time of the death of a believer approaches, he receives the good news of God’s pleasure with him and His blessings upon him, and so at that time nothing is dearer to him than what lies ahead of him. He therefore loves meeting God, and God loves meeting him.” (Saheeh Al-Bukhari)
    The soul peacefully passes out of the body like a drop of water which emerges from a water-skin, and the angels take hold of it:
    The angels gently extract it, saying:
    “…Do not fear and do not grieve, but receive good tidings of the Paradise which you were promised. We were your allies in this worldly life and [are so] in the Hereafter, and you will have therein whatever your souls desire, and you will have therein whatever you request [or wish], as a hospitality from the Forgiving and Merciful.” (Quran 41:30-32)
    Once extracted from the body, the angels wrap the soul in a shroud smelling of musk and ascend up to the heavens. As the Gates of Heaven open for the soul, the angels greet it:
    “A good soul has come from the earth, may God bless you and the body you used to dwell in.”
    …introducing it with the best names it was called with in this life. God commands his “book” to be recorded, and the soul is returned back to earth.
    The soul then remains in a place of limbo in its grave, called the Barzakh, awaiting the Day of Judgment. Two fearsome, dread-inspiring angels called Munkar and Nakeer visit the soul to ask it about its religion, God, and prophet. The believing soul sits upright in its grave as God grants it the strength to answer the angels with full faith and certainty.
    Munkar and Nakeer: “What is your religion?”
    Believing soul: “Islam.”
    Munkar and Nakeer: “Who is your Lord?”
    Believing soul: “Allah.”
    Munkar and Nakeer: “Who is your Prophet?” (or “What do you say about this man?”)
    Believing soul: “Muhammad.”
    Munkar and Nakeer: “How did you come to know these things?”
    Believing soul: “I read the Book of Allah (i.e. the Quran) and I believed.”
    Then, when the soul passes the test, a voice from the heavens will call out:
    “My slave has spoken the truth, supply him with furnishings from Paradise, clothe him from Paradise, and open a gate for him to Paradise.”
    The believer’s grave is made roomy and spacious and filled with light. He is shown what would have been his abode in Hell - had he been a wicked sinner - before a portal is opened for him every morning and evening showing him his actual home in Paradise. Excited and full of joyful anticipation, the believer will keep asking: ‘When will the Hour (of Resurrection) come?! When will the Hour come?!’ until he is told to calm down.

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    The Disbeliever in the Grave

    As death approaches the wicked disbeliever, he is made to feel something of the heat of the Hellfire. This taste of what is to come causes him to plead for a second chance on earth to do the good he knew he should have done. Alas! His pleading will be in vain.
    “Until, when death comes to one of them, he says: ‘O my Lord. Send me back to life (on earth) in order that I may do good deeds in the things that I neglected.’ By no means! It is only an utterance that he says. And before them is a barrier (preventing them from returning: the life of the grave) until the Day (of Resurrection) they are ressurected.” (Quran 23:99-100)
    Divine wrath and punishment is conveyed to the wicked soul by hideously ugly, dark angels who sit far away from it:
    “Receive glad tidings of boiling water, wound discharge, and multiple, similar torments.” (Ibn Majah, Ibn Katheer)
    The disbelieving soul will not look forward to meeting its Lord God, as the Prophet explained:
    “When the time of the death of a disbeliever approaches, he receives the evil news of God’s torment and His Requital, whereupon nothing is more hateful to him than what is before him. Therefore, he hates the meeting with God, and God too, hates the meeting with him.” (Saheeh Al-Bukhari)
    The Prophet also said:
    “Whoever loves to meet God, God loves to meet him, and whoever hates to meet God, God hates to meet him.” (Saheeh Al-Bukhari)
    The Angel of Death sits at the head of the disbeliever in his grave and says: “Wicked soul, come out to the displeasure of Allah” as he snatches the soul out of the body.
    “And if you could but see when the wrongdoers are in the overwhelming pangs of death while the angels extend their hands, saying, ‘Save yourselves! Today you will be awarded the punishment of extreme humiliation for what you used to say against God other than the truth, and that you were, toward His verses, being arrogant.” (Quran 6:93)
    “And if you could not see when the angels take the souls of those who disbelieved… striking their faces and their backs and saying, ‘Taste the punishment of the Blazing Fire.’” (Quran 8:50)
    The evil soul leaves the body with great difficulty, drawn out by the angels as a thronged skewer is dragged through wet wool. The Angel of Death then seizes the soul and puts it in a sack woven from hair which gives off a putrid stench, as foul and offensive as the most foul-smelling rotting corpse found on earth. The angels then take the soul up past another company of angels who inquire: “Who is this wicked soul?” to which they reply: “So and so, the son of so and so?” - using the very worst of names that he was ever called during his time on earth. Then, when he is brought to the lowest heaven, a request is made that its gate be opened for him, but the request is denied. Whilst the Prophet was describing these events, when he reached this point, he recited:
    “The gates of heaven will not be opened for them and they will not enter paradise until a camel can pass through the eye of a needle.” (Quran 7:40)
    God will say: “Record his book in Sijjeen in the lowest earth.”
    …and his soul is cast down. At this juncture, the Prophet, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, recited:
    “He who assigns partners to Allah is as if he had fallen down from heaven and been snatched up by the birds, or made to fall by the wind in a place far distant.” (Quran 22:31)
    The wicked soul is then restored to its body and the two fearsome, dread-inspiring angels, Munkar and Nakeer, come to it for its interrogation. After making him sit up, they ask:
    Munkar and Nakeer: “Who is your Lord?”
    Disbelieving soul: “Alas, alas, I do not know.”
    Munkar and Nakeer: “What is your religion?”
    Disbelieving soul: “Alas, alas, I do not know.”
    Munkar and Nakeer: “What do you say about this man (Muhammad) sent to you?”
    Disbelieving soul: “Alas, alas I do not know.”
    Having failed his test, the disbeliever’s head will be struck with an iron hammer with a force so violent that it would crumble a mountain. The cry will be heard from heaven: “He has lied, so spread out carpets of Hell for him, and open for him a portal into Hell.” The floor of his grave is thus set alight with some of Hell’s fierce fire, and his grave is made narrow and constricted to the extent that his ribs become intertwined as his body is crushed. Then, an incredibly ugly being, wearing ugly garments and giving off a foul and offensive odor comes to the disbelieving soul and says: “Be grieved with what displeases you, for this is your day which you have been promised.” The disbeliever will ask: “Who are you, with your face so ugly and bringing evil?” The ugly one will reply: “l am your wicked deeds!” The disbeliever is then made to taste bitter remorse as he is shown what would have been his abode in Paradise - had he lived a righteous life - before a portal is opened for him every morning and evening showing him his actual home in Hell. Allah mentions in His Book how the wicked people of Pharaoh are, at this very moment, suffering from such an exposure to Hell from within their graves:
    “The Fire: they are exposed to it, morning and afternoon, and on the Day when the Hour will be established (it will be said to the angels): ‘(Now) cause Pharaoh’s people to enter the severest torment!’” (Quran 40:46)
    Overcome with fear and loathing, anxiety and despair, the disbeliever in his grave will keep asking: “My Lord, do not bring the last hour. Do not bring the last hour.”
    The Companion, Zaid b. Thabit, narrated how, when the Prophet Muhammad and his Companions were once passing some graves of polytheists, the Prophet’s horse bolted and almost unseated him. The Prophet, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, then said:
    “These people are being tortured in their graves, and were it not that you would stop burying your dead, I would ask God to let you hear the punishment in the grave which I (and this horse) can hear.” (Saheeh Muslim)

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