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| Member Status: Offline Posts: 78 Reputation: 136 Rep Power: 6 Join Date: Sep 2007 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Majority of new Reverts to Islam in western countries are women, in USA non Muslims report that they are 75 % from new revert from the reported about 20 000 yearly reverts to Islam! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgKOPg3jrtQ And this answers all! And when I say ALL, means everything said about women in Islam, actualy Islam is the only religion that Respect women, and make it Equal with men in front of our Creator, and Protect her and give her freedom! see those Beautiful inteligent girls revert to Islam: 6 sisters turn to Islam in America: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dVKc...elated&search= 22 Sister and brothers enter to Islam in America: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQBn6loQTdY The Idea of me bringing those links is not to say Islam in fastest growing religion in west or world, but to answer the fake accusation about women in Islam, and maybe this will lead you to discover Islam and not just read the titles on the covers without knowing what is inside! May Allah (swt) guide us all! ALLAH THE MOST MERCIFUL THE MOST WISE THE MOST BENFICIENT THE MOST LOVING Peace |
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| Member Status: Offline Posts: 78 Reputation: 136 Rep Power: 6 Join Date: Sep 2007 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
I Agree with you and I dont agree with you! I agree with you that there is a lot of western women as you say and FACTS say they become Muslims to marry Muslim Men whom they fall in love with, and this also proof how Muslim men generally treat their women (thanks), but those women are three categories to be FAIR enough: 1- Most of them become Muslims because they are convinced of that! 2- A lot of them Become Muslim but their faith is not strong 3- Some just embrace Islam to get Married from whom they love but at least they live Islamic way! But I don’t agree with you concerning my thread as I were talking about women who choose to Revert to Islam by themselves without knowing any Muslim men, and they are a lot, not only from Muslim and non Muslim reports but because personally I knew a lot of them and to be specific in Russia and Ukraine and America! Statistics say that one of Higher rate of violence of Husbands towards their wives is in America, did you know that!? Do you know why are such results in west!? One of the main reasons is they are DRUNK and no social system to protect women! FBI report says about 100 000 women RAPED in America EACH YEAR: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_02/html/...blerape04.html See when you talk about ISLAM then lets talk what Islam says and not what Muslims do, because if you begin to talk what some bad Muslims do and we begin to talk about what non Muslim men do, the result at the end will be that ISLAM makes better communities! And the most interesting that you as Christian defending western system that have nothing to do with Christianity, as if you choose another religion this amazes me actually! Do you know that Islam is the only religion that gives rights to women !? Do you know that Islam is the only religion that makes women Equal to men in front of God!? Do you know that Islam is the only religion that written in it for men: MARY ONLY ONE WIFE (interesting fact). Do you know that ISLAM is the only religion that makes System and gives solution to protect women! Women in Islam are respectable, have honor, dignity, they are protected and saved by men they have Inner beauty also, for example do you like when men call women chicks!? And Ironically and amazingly that you consider Nuns are better then normal women, they are considered the highest level of faith among women in Christianity right!? And I want to ask you a question whom you think better: A- A women that day and night pray and do nothing else and she dont have any obligation no Husband or children to take care of them!? B- or a women who believe and pray beside she take care of her home Husband and children and even her old mother etc.. Which women is better!? See if you are Christian then talk to me Christianity and not FAKE freedom that Christianity have nothing to do with it! right !? May Allah (swt) guide us all! Peace | |
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| Member Status: Offline Posts: 84 Reputation: 118 Rep Power: 8 Join Date: May 2007 Location: birmingham Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
Too many times people make out like its the western people doing wrong,converting because they are in love and want to marry,etc and the wrong on the side of th muslim person goes un-noticed. | |
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| Member Status: Offline Posts: 52 Reputation: 38 Rep Power: 6 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Gender: Way of Life: Atheist | Quote:
The ‘judge’ in the Nigerian Sharia court even condemned the reporter for not wearing a headscarf and for shaking the hand of another man. The judge, himself a very devout Muslim, would certainly have disagreed if you accused him of not upholding the “purest of Islamic law”. Every ruling he made was with reference to and in accordance with the rules stipulated by the Quran. It’s easy to say such things when you happen to live in a society whose laws are not governed entirely by religious doctrine isn’t it? | |
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| Member Status: Offline Posts: 78 Reputation: 136 Rep Power: 6 Join Date: Sep 2007 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
Agree with you, and also happens that some of those women feel that they are pressured although their husbands dont pressure but just ask or explain them things related to Islam but they feel that they are pressured! Peace Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance. Holy Qur'an 16:125 | |
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| Member Status: Offline Posts: 78 Reputation: 136 Rep Power: 6 Join Date: Sep 2007 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
By the way there is Hijab also for men, it is not only for women! fact is that those who talk about freedom and especialy freedom of women they dont have what they talk about! And bringing examples of Poor countries like Nigeria or Afganistan that is faught since in apeard and economicaly faught and surrounded by the whole world is not fair! May Allah (swt) guide us all! Peace Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance. Holy Qur'an 16:125 | |
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| Member Status: Offline Posts: 52 Reputation: 38 Rep Power: 6 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Gender: Way of Life: Atheist | Quote:
I have never seen a man wearing a hijab. Let's not try and make claims that really aren't true in practice. You know as well as anyone that men do not wear it, whether they're supposed to or not. In anycase, why should your women need protecting? Shouldn't Islam teach respect for women? Why is it necessary for them to wear protective clothing just to protect them from lustful men who cannot master self control? What baffles me most is the Muslim women who actually feel happy to wear the hijab. It's oppressive. | |
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| Abdullah Muhammad Status: Offline Posts: 10,716 Reputation: 49722 Rep Power: 86 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Minnesota Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
Yes, we are taught respect for women. The Hijab is a physical reminder of the respect we have for women. To use an analogy if you had a billion dollars in gold would you keep it in a bank vault or on a table in your front yard? Shouldn't you trust the will power of your neighbors to leave it alone. Any woman is worth many times a billion dollars, why should a billion dollars be treated with more respect than a woman? A woman is proud and happy to wear a hijab, because she knows she is doing it for Allaah(swt) No man has the right to force a woman to wear it. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |
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| Member Status: Offline Posts: 78 Reputation: 136 Rep Power: 6 Join Date: Sep 2007 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
It is well know that what you wear SHOWS your personality, Muslims (MEN/WOMEN) should were cloths that when someone see them say they are, MUSLIMS and DECENT and RESPECTABLE people, thats why as well as women have to wear some cloths and cover herself, ISLAM says what men should wear and cover themselves also, like for example you cannot pray wearing SHORTS! If you go to any western (supposed free) country and you walk in streets with your girl friend in very hot day, then you both take of your cloths and walk only with shorts and your chests are naked (man equal to woman) then believe be the police will come to you both and they will arrest HER and not you! Simply this because MEN are Different then WOMEN thats why their cloths are different and Hijab are different! So as you see Men and women in ISLAM are equal concerning HIJAB which again means more then only cloths! And really I dont understand what is the problem if women want to wear Hijab, so that when people see her say this is MUSLIM and DECENT women, not only that she will be treated differently, for example you will not be able to call her names like in (supposed free) countries use words like CHICKS for example, you will not tell her lets go to my home to have some beer etc...! See there is difference between two women or girls who wake up in the morning: One chose her closes so that she look decent and respectable and men dont look at her outside beauty! And Another who wear cloths so that she attract as mush as she can eyes of men etc.... ! feel the difference!? May Allah (swt) guide us all! Peace Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance. Holy Qur'an 16:125 | |
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| Extremophile Status: Offline Posts: 6,486 Reputation: 22575 Rep Power: 53 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swimming with thermus aquaticus in Yellowstone National Park Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
Why dont you sleep with your doors unlocked and wide open then? Why dont you leave your car unlocked? Why dont you just leave your wallet lying around? By your logic that is what we should all be doing. Islam DOES teach respect for women, but that doesnt mean that every male is a Muslim (and therefore wont follow Islamic teachings) and not all Muslims follow the Islamic legislation! ![]() | |
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| Extremophile Status: Offline Posts: 6,486 Reputation: 22575 Rep Power: 53 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swimming with thermus aquaticus in Yellowstone National Park Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | What? Women in Saudi ARE allowed to study! Where on earth are you getting your facts form? As for driving in Saudi, it is a ruling that they made that suites their culture and society, it is not an Islamic ruling.
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| Im a Cat! Status: Offline Posts: 13,009 Reputation: 13722 Rep Power: 45 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Yard سولجا_جيال Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
I certainly agree with you sister. A lot of revertion has happened in USA, and for once im a American revert Alhmdulilah. Im proud of it.. But majority of reverts in USA do get punished for reverting (speaking from my own personal).. All i want to say is im proud to be a muslim now!!! *RASIE HANDS* Ya Allaah guide us all AMin Ma'assalama! | |
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| Super Moderator Status: Offline Posts: 5,175 Reputation: 22110 Rep Power: 54 Join Date: Jan 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Greetings Draco,
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