Keyam al layl

bewildred · **Keyam al layl -** 09-28-2007

Hello y'all,

Please, how can a person who learnt very few surats make the keyam al layl. Is it allowed to hold the holly Qur'an during prayers?

Bewildred S.

jzcasejz · **Re: Keyam al layl -** 10-02-2007

Of course, the best Qiyaam ul-Layl is that which has long standing in it i.e. long recital of Quran. However, even if you know a few Surahs, your night prayer is still perfectly valid. In these cases, it'll be good to recite the Surahs that have alot of virtues i.e. Surah Ikhlaas, Zilzaal etc...

^ I heard that in an audio lecture once. Maybe someone else can come along and explain better InshaAllaah.

About the holding the Quran thing --> Allaahu A'lam.

**Muhammad** · **Re: Keyam al layl -** 10-03-2007

I came across this on Islamqa:

Question:

Is it permissible for the imam to read from the Quran during Tarawih prayers in Ramadan? Are prayers not accepted if the Imam reads from Quran during Tarawih prayers?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

There is nothing wrong with reading from the Mus-haf during night prayers in Ramadaan, because this will make the members of the congregation hear all of the Qur’aan. The Qur’aan and Sunnah indicate that Qur’aan should be recited in prayer, whether it is from the Mus-haf or from memory. It was proven that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) told her freed slave Dhakwaan to lead her in praying qiyaam in Ramadaan, and he used to read from the Mus-haf. Al-Bukhaari mentioned this in his Saheeh…

Fataawa Islaamiyah, vol.2 – Shaykh Ibn Baaz

syilla · **Re: Keyam al layl -** 10-04-2007

don't worry bewildered, not everyone remember the quran even the born muslims.

If i perform 20 rakaah....i still repeat the same surahs.

I still trying to memorise the quran

wassallam

Malaikah · **Re: Keyam al layl -** 10-04-2007

There is nothing wrong with holding the Quran while praying non-obligatory prayers, just make sure you have a chair or something next to you so you can place the Quran on it when you make sujood.

Fighting4Iman · **Re: Keyam al layl -** 10-04-2007

HANAFI FIQH

Holding a book and reciting from it will invalidate the prayer, be it Fard, Wajib, Sunna or Nafl. This is due to its constituting Amal Kathir (a great amount of action that renders the prayer invalid) and more so because it entails being prompted from a book.

You should simply recite those suras that you do know and continue with your efforts to learn more suras and include them in your salah.

This not permitted in the Hanafi school, as it is (a) extraneous action foreign to the prayer; and (b) not established from the practice of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him), who commanded us to,

"Pray as you have seen me pray."
[Bukhari]

(Radd al-Muhtar 1.672, Dar al-Fikr)

Abu Usamah

Fighting4Iman · 11:17 AM

Reading from it invalidates the prayer according to the relied upon position. [Ibn Abidin/Haskafi, Radd al-Muhtar `ala al-Durr al-Mukhtar]

This would not be valid according to the stronger (asahh) position in the Hanafi school, because the stronger position is that the validity of praying behind someone is contingent upon the imam's prayer being valid according to the school of the follower. [Ibn Abidin, Radd al-Muhtar]

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bewildred Finding my way... Status: Offline Posts: 290 Reputation: 1114 Rep Power: 9 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Keyam al layl - 09-28-2007 Hello y'all, Please, how can a person who learnt very few surats make the keyam al layl. Is it allowed to hold the holly Qur'an during prayers? Bewildred S. __________________ You are the WE of me (Carson McCullers)

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jzcasejz LI Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 1,982 Reputation: 21297 Rep Power: 50 Join Date: Apr 2005 Way of Life: Undisclosed	Re: Keyam al layl - 10-02-2007 Of course, the best Qiyaam ul-Layl is that which has long standing in it i.e. long recital of Quran. However, even if you know a few Surahs, your night prayer is still perfectly valid. In these cases, it'll be good to recite the Surahs that have alot of virtues i.e. Surah Ikhlaas, Zilzaal etc... ^ I heard that in an audio lecture once. Maybe someone else can come along and explain better InshaAllaah. About the holding the Quran thing --> Allaahu A'lam.

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Muhammad Slave of Allaah Status: Offline Posts: 4,069 Reputation: 24725 Rep Power: 57 Join Date: Apr 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Keyam al layl - 10-03-2007 I came across this on Islamqa: Question: Is it permissible for the imam to read from the Quran during Tarawih prayers in Ramadan? Are prayers not accepted if the Imam reads from Quran during Tarawih prayers? Answer: Praise be to Allaah. There is nothing wrong with reading from the Mus-haf during night prayers in Ramadaan, because this will make the members of the congregation hear all of the Qur’aan. The Qur’aan and Sunnah indicate that Qur’aan should be recited in prayer, whether it is from the Mus-haf or from memory. It was proven that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) told her freed slave Dhakwaan to lead her in praying qiyaam in Ramadaan, and he used to read from the Mus-haf. Al-Bukhaari mentioned this in his Saheeh… Fataawa Islaamiyah, vol.2 – Shaykh Ibn Baaz __________________ *{...And indeed it is a Book of exalted power. No falsehood can approach it from before or behind it: It is sent down by One Full of Wisdom, Worthy of all Praise.*} [Fussilat: 41-42] Islamic Newsletters:** http://www.islamleicester.com/Conten...7/Default.aspx If I make a mistake then please correct me, and if I have said something wrong then please forgive me.

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syilla not trying hard enuf Status: Offline Posts: 4,565 Reputation: 14891 Rep Power: 38 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: malaysia Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Keyam al layl - 10-04-2007 don't worry bewildered, not everyone remember the quran even the born muslims. If i perform 20 rakaah....i still repeat the same surahs. I still trying to memorise the quran wassallam __________________ 25:36 And the true servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk the earth with humility and when the ignorant address them, they respond with words of peace.

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Malaikah Extremophile Status: Offline Posts: 6,657 Reputation: 24549 Rep Power: 57 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swimming with thermus aquaticus in Yellowstone National Park Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Keyam al layl - 10-04-2007 There is nothing wrong with holding the Quran while praying non-obligatory prayers, just make sure you have a chair or something next to you so you can place the Quran on it when you make sujood. __________________

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Fighting4Iman Fighting4Emaan Status: Online Posts: 16,010 Reputation: 48512 Rep Power: 93 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fighting4Emaan Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Keyam al layl - 10-04-2007 HANAFI FIQH Holding a book and reciting from it will invalidate the prayer, be it Fard, Wajib, Sunna or Nafl. This is due to its constituting Amal Kathir (a great amount of action that renders the prayer invalid) and more so because it entails being prompted from a book. You should simply recite those suras that you do know and continue with your efforts to learn more suras and include them in your salah. This not permitted in the Hanafi school, as it is (a) extraneous action foreign to the prayer; and (b) not established from the practice of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him), who commanded us to, "Pray as you have seen me pray." [Bukhari] (Radd al-Muhtar 1.672, Dar al-Fikr) Abu Usamah __________________ -Fighting for my Emaan- I Will Not Lose - Never - No Way - Not Ever

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Fighting4Iman Fighting4Emaan Status: Online Posts: 16,010 Reputation: 48512 Rep Power: 93 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fighting4Emaan Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Keyam al layl - 10-04-2007 Reading from it invalidates the prayer according to the relied upon position. [Ibn Abidin/Haskafi, Radd al-Muhtar `ala al-Durr al-Mukhtar] This would not be valid according to the stronger (asahh) position in the Hanafi school, because the stronger position is that the validity of praying behind someone is contingent upon the imam's prayer being valid according to the school of the follower. [Ibn Abidin, Radd al-Muhtar] __________________ -Fighting for my Emaan- I Will Not Lose - Never - No Way - Not Ever Last edited by Fighting4Iman; 10-04-2007 at 11:17 AM..