Insha'Allaah the thread can be closed in due course, but since there has been some discussion going on, it might be better to wait until people have become clear on the issue.

There are also some other threads relevant to the topic, please see:

http://www.islamicboard.com/basics-i...uidelines.html

http://www.islamicboard.com/basics-i...ee-mixing.html

http://www.islamicboard.com/general-...rmingling.html

http://www.islamicboard.com/marriage...-reminder.html

http://www.islamicboard.com/basics-i...ite-gnder.html

why?

Why?

Well because there is no need for brothers to talk to sisters unless it is essential.


Now see, that is basically one of the reasons why super mods have the right to check the P.M's between brothers/sisters..to make sure everything goes in accordance to the Shariah law as sister Labibah has stated earlier.



Now if a sister for some reason perfers to give the message to a brother via a mod then by all means she is enable to do so.



Infact, this is one of the better choices then directly communicating to a brother, in my opinon.

so in accordance to shariah men and women only talk if essential, can you not control yourself? what is the reason for this law?

is attraction the sin or acting upon the attraction

islam gets rid of the roots of the problem, so there is very little chance left for you to commit the sin (if any...)

Well that's the whole point..to have no attraction whatsoever. Eventually, smaller things will lead to big things then you'd really have something to be concerned about.

In accordance to the segregation of opposite sexes not only applied here on the forums, but this is everywhere unless of course that person is your mahram.

Islam proceeds to prevent something like that from getting into something bigger. A simple scenario is attraction.


If you keep on writing to the person that you are attracted to that definetly wouldn't help the situation..because there has to be a boundary and that is NOT writing to the opposite sex for unnecessary reasons.

this must happen only in isalm because normally in society people interact and are quite responsible when acting upon their feelings, it is sad that you cannot exercise self-governance. as for islam pre-empting the possibility of attraction, then segregation is in itself half-baked best not have children at all cos one way or another you will still be attracted to someone, and what of lesbians what if they feel attracted how you gonna solve that one?, anyhows attraction is healthy and a part of life a person should embrace all things and live in the moment this is called living, this does not mean you act upon them when you love someone you can embrace that love and let it well-up in youre whole being, being imbued with such natural emotions is what makes us who we are, denying them is not abiding by the will of god, the purest one is one who shines like a radiant pearl whilst situated in the midst of filth, if you cannot do that, then you must live enslaved.

Thats why Allah swt has prescribed for us a thing called "marriage" so that we can act upon our desires/attractions in a lawful manner.

You dont need to look very far to see the curruption in society that intermixing with the oposite gender causes. How many marriages end up in divorce because of ppl having ellicit affairs. The spread of aids, children born out of wedlock etc etc. All these things start with "attraction" then lead to other things which then lead to major sinful acts. Islam has a cure for everything. It warns us about the harms of free mixing. Its cure starts with the root of where this illness arises from which is to lower the gaze and to avoid free mixing.

You may call it enslaved or oppression, of self-ignorance because of the fact that we are so vigilant over our feelings, but in Islam this is a complete way of life.

The things that we are forbidden to do always have a strong moral behind them. Anything sinful that we do, is accounted on our deeds.

If Allah(saw) tells us not to have sex before marriage, then what are we going to do, let our emotions take over us and ignore what he said? I mean..we would obviously be hypocrites!

The lame excuse that we are enslaved that we don't have the so-called freedom is such a false impression that even muslim women themselves decide to defend themselves to the maximum.

How are we as muslims are so ever enslaved if we continue to follow what Allah(swt) has told us to do?

If we are enslaved..we surely have the option to convert into another religion don't you think?

If we are so oppressed..you wouldn't see a muslim woman wearing niquab for her own sake in the name of protection. As a a matter of fact, ask any niquabi you see why they wear niquab for? They will not tell you they are enslaved they will tell you its for the sake of protection hence a moral right.

is there an epidemic of female molestation that i am unaware of?, is there a seedy underground which is waiting to pounce upon muslim women so that they purposely go to hell?

when any man comes under the weight of ANY law then they are no longer in charge of their destiny, god takes full account of the thought not just the action, if you let the thought play out within then you will be able to move on, but if you prevent the thought in the first place then you are escaping a part of you which is inherent to being a human, and yes i believe that wrapping yourself in cotton wool is a form of slavery even if you are lead to believe it is for your protection. I used to be a part of amnesty international and for all the islami laws in iran to protect women, women are still one of the greatest number of criminals who are hanged for killing men because theydid not resist rape. Now i am sure youll find some fancy way to wriggle out of this fact but remember that when you shovel rape stats about the western world , they can easily be wriggled out of aswell. Simple fact: face each challenge as it comes, this world is a battlefield and women are expected to fight an equal battle not hide in a bunker.

no cos i dont believe islam is as how you are brought up to believe it is, initially all religions start of the same and then because of feudalism, patriarchy and mysogynistic leaders the message goes astray. I bet if more women in isalm started to assert themselves in society as active equal participants men would initially be ashamed but ultimately consider updating their religious praxis.


i never said you were opressed i believe islamic women are too subservient to men and the older women are equally aggressive to younger women because of the fear of men, i think muslim women should make an example of of macho men more this is the only way they can regain leadership and respect amongst all women in the ummah, once one is liberated that one will liberate many more. I dont believe all this stuff about muslim women wearing niqab for protection i think its sometimes a political message especially in the west, go to pakistan and you wouldnt think it was an islamic country, also its become cool and trendy to wear muslim fashion even non-muslims do it there even fashion cat-wals which i think is a good thing.

When i used to work in an office I used to always go to nandos with a muslim girl and she was a devout muslim she never had a problem yeah the blokes used to talk behing her back cos we used to go together but I and she and the staff at nandos all knew that nothing went on, just gossiping muslim men are trouble causers cos they got sad lives. well some of them anyways.

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