Assalamo alaykom brothers n sistas
Thanx for everybody who replied ur all very nice ..... i have read some of the links, and now i have no problem with the authenticity of the hadiths he wrote ... tho im still not convinced about whether we shud follow all these hadiths or not .... u see ... hadiths are 3 types ( or so ive read, words said by the prophet, things he used to do, and things he saw muslimeen do and did not stop them, how can the last two be explaination to qoran? this is exactly what i meant, alot of hadiths do not explain things said in qoran, i know all of sunna does not CONTRADICT with qoran but it surely does add obligations and rules not even mentioned in qoran...grownin a beard is a good example, allah says nothing about growing beards, but the prophet told muslemeen to grow beards to be different from mushrikeen, well alot of mushrikeen have beards now ... maybe back then where they lived mushrikeen did not have beards so the prophets ordered muslims to grow their beards in order to look different :S ... also the prophets clothes, alot of ppl try to copy the way the prophet dressed, but it wsa a cultural thing, we can't just consider everything the prophet used to do is sunna and imitate it, the prephet pbuh married aisha when she was very young .. does this mean we shoud marry a 9 year old because its sunna !? please explain to me im very confused

salamo alaykom
ahmad

Bro wen u talk can u show d utmost respect, cos der is a hadiths in which RasoolAllah (saw) says, "the angels curse those, who dont say Sal Allah Hu Aley Hi Wassallam, wen my name is mentioned"

And D Prophet (saw) had more then 4 wifes, when in the quran it says keep 4, we cant go round saying cos D Prophet (saw) did it, we can do it, he got married 2 increase ties with people & help widows, he had a gud reason 4 all he did & he had certain circumstances, we dont hav dem reasons or circumstances

also regardin d hadiths, lemme giv u sum heavyy advice if ur heart dnt agree wit it, den dont agree wit it

dreams ? like what?

In a statement put on islamonline.net it stated with regards to a famous hadeeth about Musical instruments. "Although this hadith is in Sahih Al-Bukhari, its chain of transmission is not connected to Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) and this invalidates its authenticity. Ibn Hazm rejects it for that very reason. Moreover, the sub-narrator, Hisham Ibn `Ammar is declared ‘weak’ by many scholars of the Science of Hadith Methodology."

Source

So I don't get it, is a weak hadeeth still applied to the Prophet?

As we are now, they are quite reliable, however the Quran will always be our main source of guidance, and hadith's are always subject to fabrication or loss of chain, they have been protected over the years by scholar's alhamdulliah but as prophet (s) said himself, the scholar's will die overtime and there will be none left. Its only a matter of time. But alhamdulliah, for now, they are reliable.

if d hadiths says its not applied 2 RasoolAllah (saw) den it aint innit, but wen it says it has a weak connection, it means it hasnt got strong backin, lik 1 person mite hav sed it in a diff way, n 1 person in a completely diff way, so den its called weak!

salamo alaykom brother
am sorry i didn't realize i wasn't writing pbuh, its 2am here lol but alhamdulella i always say sallallaho alayhi wasallam WHENEVER his name alayhi assalato wassalam is mentioned thanx for the reminder tho... and about the prophets (saw) wives, thats exactly what im saying ... the prophet pbuh had certain circumstances ... so he did things that he only was allowed to do .. or muslims at that time were ordered to do because of certain reasons... and hadiths just include everything and most of these just say ... mohammad sallalaho alayhi wasallam said ............... but do not explain when and why .. u got ma point ? thanx salamz .. ahmad

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ya i understand ur point, mashallah bro ahmad,

also hadiths show us d Prophets (saw) way of life, and explain how we sud live islamically, dats y d Prophet (saw) sed "if u follow d Quran & my sunnah, den u will b successful in d hereafter"

jazakhallah how sweet of u bro & stop beefin lol

now now bk 2 d post lol, bro ahmad can i jus ask what made u doubt d hadiths? a particular hadiths??

salam ..
well ... the beard thingy .. whenever i ask why is it obligatory they say to be different than the kafirs.. and because the prophet pbuh said in one of his hadiths (heffo ashareba wa atleko alleha) .. but the hadith is like very vague and u can't tell why he (saw) said it or in what occasion. also the story when a sahabi (can't recall his name) asked the prophet give me a reason so i can kill this kafir ... and the prophet allowed him to kill him :S:S don't remember the story well .. but it made me doubt the authenticity of the hadith .. because if you want to write a hadith like this about our beloved prophet (saw) you should be careful and say why he did this ... IFF he really did it (allowed the sahabi to kill the kafir guy) ...

Its funny how everyone here is suddenly a scholor of hadith while he hasnt even memorized the Quran in its entirety. Please fear Allah, the Scholor of Hadith studies for years and years and memorizes and memorizes and only then can he be considered a scholor. And the Hadith sciences has many branches as well.

This thread will be closed until brother Ansar deals with it Inshallah.