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All duaz' from Sunnah ^

AsalamuALaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh,

jazakAllah bro cha cha that is true you know,

jazakAllah fro link @ br Fi sabz

I take refuge (to seek protection from the evil threatening me) with the might of Allah, the power of Allah, the strength of Allah, the greatness of Allah, the demonstration of Allah, the sovereignty of Allah, the assistance of Allah, the security of Allah, the amnesty of Allah, the shield of Allah, the kindness of Allah, the pride of Allah, the attention of Allah, the beauty of Allah, the grandeur of Allah, the perfection of Allah-there is no god save Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, I put myself, my children, my family, my property under (Allah's protection ) in the name of Allah's perfected words, from all devils, poisonous animals, and from every evil eye.Ameen (Say Ameen)

Ok, thanks you guys don't think I'm a magician lol.

That's a better explanation, but my mind is still questioning certain things. For instance, spiritual healing is not ibadah itself but rather like any other good deed for the sake of Allah is also a form of ibadah. So how could it be classed as innovation in deen? It's not changing the way we should worship Allah.


I've seen such things myself and they disgust me. But she might not have known she was commiting shirk. She might've prayed to a grave and thought that whover was in the grave would ask Allah on her behalf, yet it was her faith in Allah for which He bestowed her with a son? Only Allah knows if it was a test. Not saying what she did was right though. Also, I was 17 when I started practicing S.H. and I had no knowledge of what shirk is. Then would Allah swt, (sorry Allah ji) test me with something I'm ignorant of?


Astaghfirullah if I said anything that displeased Allah. May Allah put the Truth in my brain. Ameen. I understand underlined part. But what if I say to myself that I will recite any surah a certain number of times for the pleasure of Allah and ask Him to fulfil my wish. And then Allah grants my wish. Will I have innovated something that doesn't conform to the Sunnah?



There is no healer except Allah subhana wa ta'ala. Just as Allah gives us rain through clouds, He can also give shifa through other people.

^ agreed sista,but shifa through others,i tink its best to jus do healin yaself,instd of goin to sum1
i dunno how situation in other countries is. but in pakiland everywer u go der are self pro claimed saints + healers. and they hav a attitude of "we are right no matter what" and thats just childish lol and if you question them they say they busy lol,its good us youth learn and teach real islam. because shirk + bidah hav come so common nowadays, its sad.

anyway lol, we should use authentic ruqyah

Oh that reminds me. I forgot to ask what Ruqyah is?

As for the things they do in pakiland, the weirdest one has got to be when they go and put 'chaadars' on graves of pious men. Why??? I mean what do they think - the man is cold? And then like Fi bro mentioned they do this mannat thing where they shave a boys head and leave a bit growing on the top of his bonce. It looks so rediculous.

There's also this darbaar of Shah Dola. Women go there and ask him for a baby. But here's the freaky bit. This peer looked like a mouse. I don't mean he was furry with goofy teeth. But he had this tiny head and was nicknamed 'chuaa' (mouse) cuz of it. So anyway, they pray to him for a kid, but the condition is that the first-born is given to the darbaar. The first-born always looks like a 'chuaa' with the same tiny head - and I mean tiny. I've seen them with my own eyes. If the woman doesn't give her first-born away then the rest of her children will be born 'chuaas' too. OMG! It's so freaky.

There's also a man still alive, who can be in one town one minute and another the next. He's been nicknamed Sain Jahaz (aeroplane). My friend has seen him with her own eyes. He doesn't wear a stitch but is said to be Holy and has special powers. SubhanAllah, these are the unseen things which only Allah has ilm of.


P.S JazakAllah for the links Al Madani br. I'll listen tomorrow inshaAllah.

I don't want to give any sorta pronouncement on that scenario. However I will say that reciting Qur'an is not a 'pre-requisite' for your Du'a to be accepted. Allaah will accept your Du'a as long as you ask sincerly turning to Him Alone and having certainty that He will reply to you. You know, here's an excellent (the best I have heard) series of lectures on Du'a. Make sure you listen to them Insha'Allaah.

Du'a - Weapon of the Believer 1
Du'a - Weapon of the Believer 2
Du'a - Weapon of the Believer 3
Du'a - Weapon of the Believer 4
Du'a - Weapon of the Believer 5
Du'a - Weapon of the Believer 6
Du'a - Weapon of the Believer 7
Du'a - Weapon of the Believer 8
Du'a - Weapon of the Believer 9

I know it's quite a bit to listen to, but trust me, it's alot better that you spare some time and sit and listen to these lectures since the person speaking is a Scholar, Shaykh Yasir Qadhi, and he brings all the evidences and his lectures are just flowing with knowledge.

That's just the start of it. You'll find these people doing Tawaf around the graves, putting their head on it, kissing it, prostrating to it etc etc. Needless to say all this is blatant shirk, and if not shirk, a despicable innovation that is a stepping stone to shirk. I urge you to listen to lectures I gave before (in previous posts), the entire series which is an explanation of a book called Kitab At-Tawheed. Please listen to it.

And when you have the time, go through this thread:
http://www.islamicboard.com/islamic-...assul-etc.html

He's most probably a black magician. Leave him and seek refuge in Allaah from him. Recite surah Al Baqarah (preferably memorize it) as the Messenger said the magicians cannot face it.
This man definetly is not holy. This action is known amongst the black magicians that jinns carry them around, they walk on water and all other sorts of deceptions. Sister, please take the time out, ASAP, and read this entire thread, start to end:
http://www.islamicboard.com/islamic-...ies-devil.html

Be wary of these people, seek refuge in Allaah from them and always recite Qur'an and remain in Dhikr. May Allaah protect us from the evil of the allies of Shaitan.

22:38 - Truly, Allah defends those who believe...

hha, no of course not sis!! Magicians are mushriks.

But the prophet never said we aren't allowed to use medicine...

do you mean healed by the black magic? It is an illusion... for example there was a story where the wife of one of the men from the early generations of Islam was using one of those amulet things to cure her twitching eye. That is haram, of course, (it was a non-religious, non-sunnah one), but it worked, and she told her husband if it was haram why does it work (or something like that...). He replied to her that there was probably a devil who used to poke her eye or something and cause it to twitch, and when she got the amulet he stopped doing it to trick her into committing shirk.

Malaikah sis? Are we sisters now? hehe kidding.

I think the bro just meant that its a sign of a magician to use talismans etc.



I think the difference is that you're using Qur'an as a form of medicine, therefore it has to reflect the Sunnah. Whereas the other aspects are to do with medicine and worldly innovations. I'll give you an example:

I know of someone who met another man in the Masjid, he asked him some questions and that guy in the Masjid said that 'i give you ijaaza (permission) to do so and so.' The ijaaza was that if someone has a tooth ache, they should get a wooden plank and hammer in 3 nails. Then he recites some Qur'an or Allaah's names, he writes the name of the person with the toothache on the plank of wood, while the person with the tooth ache touches their tooth.


Now this depends on the intention, if its a scientific cure that you hammer some nails in a plank of wood to get rid of the toothache. Then that may be okay.

However, if the person is saying that hammering the plank of wood with nails is part of the ruqya, spiritual healing - then that is dangerous since that isn't in accordance with the Sunnah (unless proved otherwise.)


Again, in reality - the Ahlus Sunnah [people of the Sunnah] find evidence from Allaah's Messenger or his companions to do acts of worship, whereas the people of bid'a usually make something up, and try to find proof to backup their claim.




The people who do it in ignorance, Allaah may not punish them for that. However, when the clear evidences come to them - then they have to obey, otherwise they would be going against Qur'an & Sunnah and depending on what they're doing - they could either be doing a major sin, a bid'a or even worse than that.


You probably might hesitate before clicking on this link, but i think it's extremely important. The majority of us have been through it, and you will get attacked and be called by the 'W' title. But in the end, you will be proud of being called that since anything they say - you will have strong daleel/evidence from Allaah and His Messenger to counter act their argument inshaa Allaah.


So i urge you to check this link, it will have many answers to all of your questions inshaa Allaah:

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamen...hab/index.html




When the Messengers' of Allaah came to their people, their people believed that Allaah existed, they believed that Allaah created them, sustains them and everything. However they felt that they weren't pious enough, and praying to these intermediarries would raise their duas' [supplications] to Allaah. This is what the christians do to Jesus son of Mary, Mary, their saints etc. And alot of muslims have fallen into the exact same trap.

Again, i'll let you check the link out inshaa Allaah and you'll see that the author himself hardly writes anything, he just quotes Allaah and His Messenger with authentic sources throughout. I hope you benefit from it inshaa Allaah, and know that you will become a stranger once you call people away from the way of their 'forefathers.'

When it is said to them: "Follow what Allah hath revealed:" They say: "Nay! we shall follow the ways of our fathers." What! even though their fathers Were void of wisdom and guidance?

The parable of those who reject Faith is as if one were to shout Like a goat-herd, to things that listen to nothing but calls and cries: Deaf, dumb, and blind, they are void of wisdom.

[Qur'an Al-Baqara 2: 170-1]

That sounds like an order. Loq, mashaAllah! I will listen to them bro. Perhaps a day at a time, since they are extremely long.



SubhanAllah, it never occured to me that jinns can carry people like that. But alhumdulillah, I have been avoiding the spiritual healing and I can assure you, there is absolutely no danger of me falling into something that's forbidden. Hence all the questioning.




Now that is a real eye-opener. JazakAllah.




lolololol, did I ever say you were a brother?

you know when someone vanishes or does whatever, you should know that RasoolAllah (sal allah hu aleyhi wasalam) didnt suddenly vanish and start flying and neither did any sahaba (ra), many of these stories Allah hu alim lol, because they do sound strange, but some people have actually seen them so they have to be black magic

also when someone flies or does whatever, you should just say so what? because its defo gona be a magic trick done with jinns or something, the religion of islam is complete as it says in surah al maidah! so by someone flying or doin a magic trick thats not gona make a difference to islam,because islam dont need someone to fly to show its beauty, RasoolAllah (sal allah hualey hi wasalam) alredy showed the beauty of islam and the religion has been completed, it doesnt need anyone else or any other practices to be added in!! in pakistan people havent been educated thats the thing, and most people that visit these darbars and all these graves, are the poor people, they go their for food and stuff, and its sad because unfortunately they end up committin shirk and its because of lack of education of islam!

I've had some second thoughts about this. I can understand a devil poking someone's eye and a majician telling it to go away etc.. But cancer isn't caused by the devils, so a majician can't tell it to go away. Hence, spiritual healing hasn't anything to do with majic.





yeh, ok. I'll shrug and say, "So what! It's not big deal!" lol
But somethings can't be explained by science, yet don't involve majic. For instance it could be a case of mind over matter. The Tibetan monks know a mental exercise by which they can make themselves feel warm in the cold climate, despite wearing minimal clothing. Also in Psychokinesis mental force (remote mental influence) can be used to move objects etc. It's simply learning how to manipulate energy just as a remote control for a TV.

I feel that as these things are not understood they are usually deemed haram and associated with jinns. But I don't believe that to be the case always.

Jinns don't go around doing favours for people. A jinns needs to be brought under control by a majician and that is not easy to achieve. They will try their best to resist capture. People have tried and some have been killed doing that (by jinns scaring the life out of them).


Healing can also be done by laying of hands on a patient. A healer transfers his/her energy into the patient. The is no such thing or belief in Islam, yet scientifically it is possible. I believe that because muslims are so behind in science that they have difficulty understanding these phenomenas. But really they are explainable.



Firstly, spiritual healing has got nothing to do with spirits. It means that when the body is ill, the soul is affected. Illness occurs when the balance of lights in the aura are reduced or in excess - distorting the balance. That's when colour therapy works. The treatment for cancer combines colour therapy to balance the reduction of the colour red lacking in the in the aura.

The taweez written by red food colour are drank by the patient. Why red? Again this is to stop the cancer attacking the red blood cells and attacking the red colour which is empty of nutrients. The lack of nutrients means the cancer starts dying, while the red blood cells are left alone to grow. How is the cancer confused to attack the food colour and not the cells? I believe that is with the isms of Allah subhana wa ta'ala writen in the taweez.

Therefore, my understanding of spiritual healing is that it it largely scientific and not majic by any means. Jinns or majic cannot cure cancer or any illness, except poking someone in the eye I suppose.

Islam recommeneds certain things for cures. But that is a collective recommendation for the Ummah. I find it hard to believe that an individual coming up with different cures might be going against the shariah when there is nothing haram involved in what they are doing.


True spiritual healers never practice anything untoward and they never charge for their services. To me spiritual healing is just treating the body and soul which althought not proven by science, consist of scientific elements. With any healing, using Allah's name for blessings cannot be haram.


some pics of the human aura