if its legal its halal...also music IS haram bro

Music is haraam. Full stop.

Argue with that, and you are arguing with rasulullaah (SAW)


WaSalaam

^ yep.. ur choice believe the scholars or believe rasulallah

As Salaam Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu

Music is 100% haraam.

The Noble Qur'an - Luqman 31:6

And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing, etc.) to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the Path of Allah, the Verses of the Qur'an) by way of mockery. For such there will be a humiliating torment (in the Hell-Fire).

Hadith - Bukhari (#787) [Also related by Tabari]

Sa'id ibn Jbayr reported that Ibn 'Abbas said about the verse: "And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks" (31:6), that, "ldle talks means singing and the like."

The Noble Qur'an - Al-Isra 17:64

"And Istafiz [literally means: befool them gradually] those whom you can among them with your voice (i.e. songs, music, and other call for Allah's disobedience)..."

Hadith - Bukhari 7:494

Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari that he heard the Prophet saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks, and the use of musical instruments as lawful. And (from them), there will be some who will stay near the side of a mountain, and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and Allah will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection."

Wa salaam

Allah Hafiz
Sister Fatima

jazakallah righteouslady

BaarakAllaahu Feekum for your replies. Sad thing is that every now and then, we get the occasional LI member who sparks of the 'music is halaal' debate. We've had dozens of threads like this in the past... but to no avail.

The evidence posted on this thread is clear now, it's all just down to you now brutha!

But there are three excpetions, i.e on the two `Eids, weddings, and to celebrate the arrival from travel of a respected individual. And only the duff is allowed, and it is only to be played by women.
Check this (Regarding Music) thread out, inshallah.

I am reading Luqman 31:6 right now . . .

What I get from the meaning is that the people who gather false claims and proofs against Allah to mislead people. I can't see the connection to music . . .

There are a lot of songs for Allah! Sami Yusuf for example.

I believe that not all music is haraam. A lot of the scholars say this too. As long as it's reasonable, it's not a woman singer, etc . . . it's okay

akh, the verses in the quran and the hadiths are subject to interpretations!!! they are not for average person like you and me to understand them how we want. we cant take them at 'face value.' thats what scholars are for. where is the respect for our scholars
Woah! that dosnt make it legal.

i doubt reliable ones would say that....
evidence?

I know its illegal but i download games from the internet and the most recent game i downloaded was FOOTBALL MANAGER 2008

I know, but their interpetation doesn't make any sense to me (and many others). There's a lotta difference between the scholars, some believe it's haraam, some believe not all music is haraam. I seriously don't know their names, but I've asked them or their representative via email and phone. I've received both haraam and not haraam with certain condition answers from them

One hadith from the Bukhari Shareef, the most authentic Book of Hadith, confirms unlawfulness of music and singing :
`There will be people of my Ummah who will seek to make lawful; fornication, wine-drinking and the use of ma`aazif ( musical instruments ).`

Would you like it any more black and white than that?
An authentic hadith states that the use of musical instruments is HARAM. There's no if's and but's, no "if it doesn't have swearing" or "if other muslims do it".

By the way, just to add, just because a lot of muslims do something, that doesn't make it halal. Do you honestly believe that? I know a lot of muslims that date, drink alchohol, go swimming in bikinis, deal with interest, gamble. Are you honestly trying to say that when a lot of people do something that makes it okay? I mean, come on..

Indeed!

Jazaakillaah Khayr.

Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari:

that he heard the Prophet (saw) saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection."


Bukhaari...

Bro Mohsen1985, your just a proof of this prohecy...Its not even debatable, not even considerable...

Open your eyes and read and believe the evidence, not what you want to believe...

Wa Alaikum Salaam Wa Rehmatullaah

My father is a religion teacher so I consider him as a scholar, my cousin knows imams which also should be considered as scholars.


Hadith (الحديث transliteration: al-ḥadīth/ "Talk Nabawi") are oral traditions relating to the words and deeds of the Islamic prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.

Where do you find your source for your hadiths that you are naming? Internet is NOT a safe source in any way, anyone could corrupt it unless it's a website that have one or several scholar(s), but that could be hard to find out if it's really a scholar isn't it? I don't think it's very clever to read the Qu'ran on the internet either, unless you Really know that it is a safe web. Or other islamic information, since there are a lot of people today unfortunately that dislikes Islam.