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Default Re: How NOT To Be Emotional - 01-20-2006

Muezzin's post is a perfect example of a post that is emotionally balanced.

All the question marks are appropriately placed, [multiple question mark, can be deduced as; "what the ***"] and comas to reflect on his pauses when he's talking and there's no exclamation marks at all. That showed that he's cool and very lighthearted.

Multiple exclamation marks show high intensity emotions.

Observe:

(1) Who do you think you are?
(2) Who do you think you are???????
(3) Who do you think you are?!!!!!!!!
(4) WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE???????
(5) WHO THE HECK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?????????????

Which of those sentences will make you feel more offended? [the sentence is already minimally demeaning].
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Default Re: How NOT To Be Emotional - 01-20-2006

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So, when you're offended, you look like a bomb? You're Muslim too? That's racial profiling!

i'm shocked at ur unfound accusation :o...(actually i'm not..letz pretend i am..)
I think that one looks more like the Scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz, but then, I'm strange.
and again..thanx for the insult..rub salt in the wound
though i must say..i neva hav a question mark flying by my face
   
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Microsoft Sam is the computer's default voice, as well as my homey.
Of course being a Mac user, Text to speech is embedded. I use Zarvox. Cool sound.
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Muezzin's post is a perfect example of a post that is emotionally balanced.

All the question marks are appropriately placed, [multiple question mark, can be deduced as; "what the ***"] and comas to reflect on his pauses when he's talking and there's no exclamation marks at all. That showed that he's cool and very lighthearted.

Multiple exclamation marks show high intensity emotions.

Observe:

(1) Who do you think you are?
(2) Who do you think you are???????
(3) Who do you think you are?!!!!!!!!
(4) WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE???????
(5) WHO THE HECK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?????????????

Which of those sentences will make you feel more offended? [the sentence is already minimally demeaning].
err..why do u feel the need to repeat urself?
   
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Default Re: How NOT To Be Emotional - 01-20-2006

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err..why do u feel the need to repeat urself?

Those were examples of how one cay type the same sentences the same way.
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Muezzin's post is a perfect example of a post that is emotionally balanced.
You are so getting reps for that when the system lets me.

And let that be a lesson to all of you. Be nice and get reps. You scratch my back, I scratch yours with reputation points or something.
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Default Re: How NOT To Be Emotional - 01-20-2006

Wa Alaykum Salam Warahmatullahi wabarakatuh,

Majority of posts tend to include emoticons because it aids the reader to distinguish the tone in which the post is written in. You find that only posts that include lay back topics include these emoticons. Debates and discussions rarely ever have posts where emoticons are used frequently for the reason that the text is written in a formal manner.

Now to say that using emoticon is expressing emotional attachment or perhaps emotional involvement in the issue is inaccurate.

For example if I use the smiling emoticon, I do not use it because I’m smiling at the person but rather it is a neutral and genuine gratitude or whatever, depending on the context.

We are to speak to fellow Muslims with kind words and in a manner that Allah (swt) has made lawful. One should try and refrain from saying things that can be perceived to being harsh or cold. Of course it is not always easy to spot our own errors and filter what could be seen as being offensive by other members but we should try to show some compassion. Sarcasm isn’t spotted in forums and thus making it difficult to express without being aided by the help of these emoticons.

To a certain extent it is important to have them, after all not all the topics here are about in-depth discussions, constant obtaining and expressing intellectual discussions.

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Wa Alaykum Salam Warahmatullahi wabarakatuh,

Majority of posts tend to include emoticons because it aids the reader to distinguish the tone in which the post is written in. You find that only posts that include lay back topics include these emoticons. Debates and discussions rarely ever have posts where emoticons are used frequently for the reason that the text is written in a formal manner.

Now to say that using emoticon is expressing emotional attachment or perhaps emotional involvement in the issue is inaccurate.

For example if I use the smiling emoticon, I do not use it because I’m smiling at the person but rather it is a neutral and genuine gratitude or whatever, depending on the context.

We are to speak to fellow Muslims with kind words and in a manner that Allah (swt) has made lawful. One should try and refrain from saying things that can be perceived to being harsh or cold. Of course it is not always easy to spot our own errors and filter what could be seen as being offensive by other members but we should try to show some compassion.

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Thank you for your contribution.

The word that it's used, "perceived" is a responsibility of the reader. While it's really hard to be neutral, it can be done. All we need is patience and going back to the roots of forum etiquettes.

For example:

(1) Keep your labeling dogma to yourself.
(2) Keep your labeling dogma to yourself!!!
(3) KEEP YOUR LABELLING DOGMA TO YOURSELF!!!
(4) KEEP YOUR IDIOTIC LABELING DOGMA TO YOUR MORONIC SELF!!!!!!!

Sentence (1) Is just a sincere advice to keep your labelling dogma to yourself. True, there are many other ways that the meaning of this sentence may be conveyed, that's not the case here. We are responding to a sentence that has been written. We just need to learn how to differentiate between personal attacks and valid critique of the views.The reader has all the power to decide where this sentence is personal or is referring to a quality that is acquired.

What other ways may (1) be written?

(a) Sister, can you please keep your labeling dogma to yourself?
(b) Please keep your labeling dogma to yourself, sister.
(c) Please honey,keep your labeling dogma to your sweetself.
(d) Please honey sweetie pie, don't label anyone okay, I'll get you some candy!

All these choices are the choice of the writer. If the writer doesn't write it that way, too bad. We don't get everything that we want.

(2) and the rests are just inflammatory and unwarranted. (4) is basically out of line
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You are so getting reps for that when the system lets me.

And let that be a lesson to all of you. Be nice and get reps. You scratch my back, I scratch yours with reputation points or something.
How did you know about my ulterior motive?
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Lets just keep this hadith in mind:

"Those who have no mercy on other human beings, will not receive the mercy of Allah." (Sahih Bukhari & Muslim)


   
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Lets just keep this hadith in mind:

"Those who have no mercy on other human beings, will not receive the mercy of Allah." (Sahih Bukhari & Muslim)




Wonderful Hadith. One we should all keep in mind when replying to posters. It really doesnt cost much.
   
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Default Re: How NOT To Be Emotional - 01-20-2006

Assalamu Alaikum

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(d) Please honey sweetie pie, don't label anyone okay, I'll get you some candy!
WHAT A SENTENCE!!!!!!!! <<howd u interpret that? HOW'D U INTERPRET THAT??!!!

lol, sorry that was fun..

on a serious note, Jazak Allah khair.

I have been thinking about lessening the smileys in my posts (Inshallah) after i saw that on another forum they werent used. No matter what, we need to all speak straight forward to any human being. Using smileys or not is not the case, but rather what each sentence says.

If it is interpreted wrong, it is not in the author's blame, but rather the readers. If a reader take something too personally or judges another member soley upon those words, then most likely he is reflecting upon his own image subhanallah.

I think smileys are used for a variety of different reasons:

1) poster is too lazy to use punctuation
e.g. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
omg!

2) people want to show their light heartedness towards another member as fear of offending them, or to add more depth into their words such as sarcasm

3) when they arent used, usually the members are in their "wisdom" state, they are speaking from their knowledge point of view and are in deep thought and might not be taking the subject as an "emotional" topic

4) people are just weird lol..so Allahu A'lem

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Default Re: How NOT To Be Emotional - 01-20-2006

Next tip [trust me, after being called a bully, idiotic, moronic, paranoid, foolish, westernized], I think I'd have the credentials.

Posts are opinions. Well, most of them are. In this forum, we acknowledge that our arguments must be based on facts. There are no other facts more solid that the Quran and Sunnah, and ijma' or qiyaas of the scholars.

But, Islam is universal. Allah has used many adjectives to describe how human being should be. tazakkaroon, tadabbaroon, ta'qiloon are all verbs that tell us that we ought to see and ponder. [excuse the transliteration, my keyboard doesn't have arabic letters].

So, when you see a post that is devoid of Quran and Sunnah [trust me, cutting and paste, don't do justice], please don't jump on the brother and sister and ask for it.

If you're really concerned about the proof, rather than asking them for it, try searching it for yourself and then, say:

"I've been very exhaustive in my search, but I cannot find anything to convince me of your post. Can you give me your proof?" rather than,

"Is it haraam? Is it halaal?" "Brother, where's your proof?"

I've clearly stated my views on the 5 rules on responsibility for a muslim. You may open any book on Usoolul Fiqh [if you don't want to be dictated by a flimsy scholar, like me ] and you will find these facts.

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Default Re: How NOT To Be Emotional - 01-21-2006



WHO THE HECK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE????!!!!!!!

KEEP YOUR IDIOTIC LABELING DOGMA TO YOUR MORONIC SELF!!!!!!!

^emotional diarrhea lol

anyways bro Takumi nice thread started

and ill give tips to reduce your emotion online

1.if u ever hate someone, punch a brick wall till u bleed or forget about that person, then forgive him/her or it

2.if u ever feel too sad about someone insulting u then do what i do and play games such as
"one on one kung fu death match"
"last one to reach the end line gets no cookies"
etc.

well kids thats all the lessons for today

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Default Re: How NOT To Be Emotional - 01-21-2006

Hey!!! shadow!! I'd PM you this message but that's exactly what I'm talkin' bout bro!!

If half of the members here are as funny as you are sans the overflowing of emoticons, I'll be like, wow....on cloud 9 maybe?

Nice tip, but do you have proof for that from the Quran and sunnah?
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