D'oh!

It is emparative that posters provide evidence from the Quran and sunnah if they are providing an answer. The onus is on them and not on others. No one should take other's words for granted if they dont provide references.

Please use other knowledgeable means such as a scholar, Imam or knowledgeable person in your area or provide sources.


I agree with you sister because what if someone doesn't provide the sources then how can we know if the answer provided is truly correct? It is vital to provide sources or just don't answer the question at all if you don't know it.

Very true, sisters. Except both Takumi and Shadow were joking ;)

Another useless smiley:

If that smiley is an accurate representation of 'hiding', Bin Laden must be in a coma by now.

But seriously... I really like this thread, and I hope everyone takes heed of what Takumi's trying to say.

What is the proof from Quran and sunnah that it's even halaal to get involved in this forum?

There is no verse in the Quran that literally says that "its okay to be involved in the forums its not haraam"! per say.... It's just that we have to conduct ourselves in a conservative manner especailly when we talk to the opposite sex. A sister or a brother using a smiley is like her using her expression or her smiling to the person she is talking to. This will make you think will she do that in real life? Then again, we are not allowed to free mix and that's anywhere based on Islamic standards.

Next tip:

How to intelligently respond without sounding intelligent.

Here's an example.

"What I do in my own time is my business not YOURS. YOU are the one who read that post, so YOU can babysit your psyche and spank it and give it time out".

How do we intelligently respond to this post?

The all caps YOU shows that there is a specific reader that the member is trying to address. If you are the member [most probably the responder was attacked personally by an unscrupulous member], calm down and read, and re read.

There's nothing wrong to specify whom the post is addressed to. Unless you use your emotions to read that post, you'll be fine. Most frequently, many members have this "imaginary" member in their head talking to them. Subsconcsiously, they imagine this member talking to them in a "in-your-face" style and they just can't handle it, even though there's no one there!

This is taking imaginary friend syndrome to another level.

You can either:

(1) Agree to his points. Because, he's right, his time is his business. and you are the one who chose to read his post so you got to be ready to swallow everything that he said. If you're not, then forum is just not for you. I, personally, dislike babysitting other people's emotional fart.

(2) Disagree to his points and refute HIS POINTS not him. Yes, it's his time is his business, but you're just advising him to be more courteous and have some finesse in his posts. Calling him a bully, westernized, paranoid, idiotic and moronic will only show that your emotions is uncontrollable and you're probably shaking with anger. You lost.

(3) That's why I like forums. We have the liberty to write and delete. Here's how.

Write everything that you want. Even use the words that are nonsensical, rude, cuss, anything. DON'T CLICK SUBMIT YET!. Then leave it. Go and make wudhu' and then come back.

Read your own post. ALOUD. Then ask yourself.

Is this really me?

Do I really want to call him a bully, flimsy scholar, stupid, idiot, moron and foolish?

Do I have anything against him or HIS POST?

Those are the questions that your parents can't answer for you.

My motto is simple. CLICK SUBMIT AT YOUR OWN RISK

Exactly! Thank you.

That is why I say, you can't ask for proofs from the Quran all the time. Does that mean that the Quran is incomplete? God forbid!

Jurists DERIVED many fatwa from Al Quran due to its clarity (muhkamaat) and AMBIGUITY (mutashaabihaat). Since I don't have a cut and paste program, maybe you guys can help me out. It's one of the first verses of Soorah Ali Imraan.

Honestly, if I post, "Macintosh is the BEST computer", I'll be stumped if someone asks me, "where's your daleel from the Quran and Sunnah brozer?"

Look, we talk about daleel in forums only. Do you honestly believe that people may quote those adillah OFF HAND if someone asks them on the street? Unless you're an ESTEEMED scholar, I don't think ANYONE in this forum or any other forum for that matter is able to do that.

How many people can quote the verses, of why we make wudhu' in such a way? [no, you can't cut and paste while walking down the streets, can you?]

SaLaaMz so wat basically is this post abwt... lolzz...

HoW NoT 2 B EmOTIONaL??? ill tel ju just sMiLe sMiLe sMilE sMilE SmILe n sMiLe sMilE sMilE SmILE SmILe sMiLe n sMiLe some more LOLZZZ it works 4 me all the tym

You may do that with other sisters which fine but the real question is would you do that with the brothers? without getting so hypothetical here I just wanted you to keep that in the back of your mind. Let me know your views on it. I'm very much interested to hear.

Well with anything and any1 am alwayz smiling as long as myself and ALLAH no that itz not in the wrong way its just to be brave and not be emotional then itz all good wat ju sayn

To substantiate whatever point we would like to present it is always credible to back it up with some evidence. Wether it be from the Quran wether it be from a newssource or even if it may be from an article. This will enable us to see if there statement is reall authentic or not. That is why if someone debates about something and he wants to make a point the first thing the dabatee will ask is where is your source? How will i know if it is authentic or not if you cannot present to me the proof?






Yeah but this is just an opinon. It is not someone claiming it to be a 'fact' or a down right statement insisting that it is true. Someone opinionated does not have to prove their point.






There is no difference between the 'virtual' world and the real world. In the real world how many scholars do you have teaching other muslims by the quran? same thing here we have some sheikhs and scholars online and they all pick out a quote from the quran to prove their point. so I don't see the difference.

Ah, but isn't that just an opinion? An educated opinion, yes, but an opinion nontheless. There are differing schools of thought, which all stem from differences of opinion in interpreting the same sources.

DISCLAIMER: I'm not questioning the veracity of all scholars, or the Quran or Ahadith. I'm just being my usual cheeky self. And this is one of my only posts with absolutely no smileys. Amazing.

And YOUR evidence for all the mumbo jumbo above...IS? [unless you're opinionated, by your definition, you don't have to provide us the evidence, and trust me, I can live with that.]

Semantics rock!

My source for this opinion - this thread.