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Default Re: Bros n sisters today!!! =( - 04-23-2008

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yea exactly.. normally they are cladded in abaya from tip to toe. but actually they are wearing jeans.
emm anything wrong in wearing jeans under the abaya????

wel if the sis is fully coverd islamicaly then nutin realy wrong with wearing jeans under the abaya... ... infact i think theres nothing wrong with wearing jeans as far as they not tight or something. (i mean as far as you not breaking the islamic rulings of hijab)
   
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^even if they're tight, there's nothing wrong with wearing them under the abaya.
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The clothes of Muslim women should not resemble men's clothes. Abu Hurairah said that: The Messenger of Allah (saws) cursed the man who wears women's clothes and the woman who wears men's clothes.

Ibn Umar said that he heard the Messenger of Allah (saws) say: He is not of us who imitates women nor is he of us who imitates men."


Prophet (saw) said, "Allah's curse is upon women who appear like men and upon men who appear like women" (Sahih al-Jami # 4976)
   
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The clothes of Muslim women should not resemble men's clothes. Abu Hurairah said that: The Messenger of Allah (saws) cursed the man who wears women's clothes and the woman who wears men's clothes.

Ibn Umar said that he heard the Messenger of Allah (saws) say: He is not of us who imitates women nor is he of us who imitates men."


Prophet (saw) said, "Allah's curse is upon women who appear like men and upon men who appear like women" (Sahih al-Jami # 4976)
Oh good Lord,

You can definitely wear jeans man,

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The clothes of Muslim women should not resemble men's clothes. Abu Hurairah said that: The Messenger of Allah (saws) cursed the man who wears women's clothes and the woman who wears men's clothes.

Ibn Umar said that he heard the Messenger of Allah (saws) say: He is not of us who imitates women nor is he of us who imitates men."


Prophet (saw) said, "Allah's curse is upon women who appear like men and upon men who appear like women" (Sahih al-Jami # 4976)
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Jeans is not only for mens. Where is the evidence that jeans is only for mens in Hadith or Quran?

I didn't mean rude. I just want know that all.

Tight clothing is haraam if only to show the public but it is okay by using the abaya to covering our clothes (jeans or western clothes) under the abaya.
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Asalamu Alaykum,

Sister, I can understand where you're coming from, but the way I see it, these people don't realise the importance of such acts in the first place, so no matter how much we condemn such behaviour, it will be of little effect.

If we examine why they do such things, we realise that it's because they are perhaps not grounded in their Islamic belief. Sometimes people don't have enough faith in Allah in the first place, so condeming them is really not going to achieve much (most likely, it will push them further away from Islam).

We need to tackle the root first, and that is bringing them to Allah. If you can make them sincere in their quest to be good muslims, then all outward acts will follow naturally.

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I didn't condemn them
   
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Default Re: Bros n sisters today!!! =( - 04-24-2008

How would you even know what a woman wears under this?
And is it anybody's business to even wonder about it?

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I notice in Glo's picture the Muslimah has gloves on. I diddnt think showing the hands was haram, just painting the nails or jewelry on them?
   
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[quote=glo;931986]How would you even know what a woman wears under this?
And is it anybody's business to even wonder about it?

Glo, this is with respect to people who wear open abayas , where if the wind blows , even the short T_shirt and a part of the waist is seen. And when they walk , the jeans is obviously visible. (if every woman wears this type of abaya the pic shown then i feel the problem of at least girls wearing hijab will be no more)
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Asalamu Alaykum,

Sister, I can understand where you're coming from, but the way I see it, these people don't realise the importance of such acts in the first place, so no matter how much we condemn such behaviour, it will be of little effect.

If we examine why they do such things, we realise that it's because they are perhaps not grounded in their Islamic belief. Sometimes people don't have enough faith in Allah in the first place, so condeming them is really not going to achieve much (most likely, it will push them further away from Islam).

We need to tackle the root first, and that is bringing them to Allah. If you can make them sincere in their quest to be good muslims, then all outward acts will follow naturally.

That's the way I see it anyway.
I agree , if we love ALLAH Subhanalawatallah ,then we would strive hard to please HIM , by doing what he likes and by not doing what he does not.
As far as wearing jeans for a girl is concerned , its not allowed , above mentioned hadiths are enough for the proof, the body and the contours are being seen .
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Her son, al-Mundhir once sent her an elegant dress from Iraq made of fine and costly material. Asmaa by this time was blind. She felt the material and said, "It's awful. Take it back to him".
Al-Mundhir was upset and said, "Mother. it was not transparent . "


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Al-Mundhir bought another dress that met with her approval and she accepted it.
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Glo, this is with respect to people who wear open abayas , where if the wind blows , even the short T_shirt and a part of the waist is seen. And when they walk , the jeans is obviously visible. (if every woman wears this type of abaya the pic shown then i feel the problem of at least girls wearing hijab will be no more)
Thank you for your explanation, Asma Shaikh.
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^even if they're tight, there's nothing wrong with wearing them under the abaya.
yeh but thats nt wat i meant lol... i meant thers nothing wrong with wearin jeans even if you not wearin abaya.
   
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I agree , if we love ALLAH Subhanalawatallah ,then we would strive hard to please HIM , by doing what he likes and by not doing what he does not.
As far as wearing jeans for a girl is concerned , its not allowed , above mentioned hadiths are enough for the proof, the body and the contours are being seen .
Wearing jeans is not prohibited sis; provided they are not exposed like you said. As for clothing that resembles mens, then so do coats, jackets, and even abayas look like jubbas but are slightly flared at the bottom. The prohibition to imitate men and vice versa relates to dressing like them to appear as such. Styles of clothing do not differ much expect in colour, fabric and design.

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Al-Mundhir bought another dress that met with her approval and she accepted it.
Yup, that just shows that a womans clothes mustn't reveal her shape. It doesn't prove they cannot wear tight clothing underneath abayas. The whole point of wearing an abaya, jilbaab, large shawl, is to cover what's underneath e.g. tight/revealing clothes.


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yeh but thats nt wat i meant lol... i meant thers nothing wrong with wearin jeans even if you not wearin abaya.
yes there is if you're going outside in them
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yeh but thats nt wat i meant lol... i meant thers nothing wrong with wearin jeans even if you not wearin abaya.


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