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| LI's Animal Maniac Status: Offline Posts: 570 Reputation: 1722 Rep Power: 10 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: South Africa Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | This came out a while ago and i'm not sure if all of you have heard it. Please take time and listen to this program. What is happening is very sad. May Allah Ta'aala save us from his Atha'ab. It is basically a discussion between Dr Irfaan Ahmed and the radio presenter, Inayat, on the destruction on many of our Islamic cultural sites. Very disturbing is the zam-zam, rebuilding of toilets on sacred places as well as the destruction of buildings that were in still standing from the time of Rasulullah's Salallahu'alauhi wassalam time. Track 1 01 Track 1.wma Track 2 http://s3.turboupload.com/file/709455693/02Track2.wma Track 3 Back from Down under! My Blog ![]() |
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| Glorious Qaghan Status: Offline Posts: 3,288 Reputation: 13376 Rep Power: 35 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Airstrip One. Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
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| LI's Animal Maniac Status: Offline Posts: 570 Reputation: 1722 Rep Power: 10 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: South Africa Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Sorry, so preoccupied with this other uploading, i forgot abt that..
__________________It basically has a discussion between Dr Irfaan Ahmed and the radio presenter Inayat on the destruction on many of our Islamic cultural sites. Very disturbing is the zam-zam as well as the destruction of buildings that were in still standing from the time of Rasulullah's Salallahu'alauhi wassalam time. Back from Down under! My Blog ![]() |
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| Glorious Qaghan Status: Offline Posts: 3,288 Reputation: 13376 Rep Power: 35 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Airstrip One. Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
Uhh, Masjid-ul-Nabi is a structure errected above a grave... ![]() | |
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| LI's Animal Maniac Status: Offline Posts: 570 Reputation: 1722 Rep Power: 10 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: South Africa Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
With you here. What struck us when we listened to the talk was that they were using this reason to destroy nearly everything important. Quote:
..let me get this track 1.. its just keep on giving me a problem! Back from Down under! My Blog ![]() | ||
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| Status: Offline Posts: 4,268 Reputation: 32160 Rep Power: 60 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ambala Boxes :( Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | It was narrated that Abu’l-Hayaaj al-Asadi said: ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib said to me: “Shall I not send you on the same mission as the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) sent me? Do not leave any statue without erasing it, and do not leave any raised grave without leveling it.” (Narrated by Muslim, 969)
__________________so thats what RasoolAllah (saw) said about graves, personally i dont agree with the destruction of the sites like Abu Bakr (Ra) house and stuff, but i can understand the reason behind it like, people might take it for a place where they decide to do sum nex thin lol, so like i said some people ruin it for others, like for example the shias they dont know where Hadhrat Hassan (ra) or Hadhrat Fatima (ra) are buried in jannah tul baqi, so they go round like the whole graveyard and recite stuff, imagine they knew which graves they were lol, they would have blatantly ended up doing some next thins there, yaaah fishy brooo but the destruction of buildings, other then the reason of shirk or summin else like over exageratin them, like they should try to stop the people doin unislamic stuff at them buildings, like for example i wana see the well which Hadhrat Uthman (Ra) bought in madinah lol i dont wana spin in circles or start prayin there lol i just wana see it, but its been like cordoned off or smashed down, thats somethin i dont agree with, but they should make sure no one does any unislamic thins there and they should just allow the buildings "they ask you when will the help of Allah (swt) come! Certainly Allah (Swt) help is always near" Surah al Baqarah v214 |
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| LI's Fishter Status: Offline Posts: 5,226 Reputation: 36570 Rep Power: 73 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Along the Coast Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Nobody prays to the grave of Sayyidina Rasulullah (Salallahu Alayhi Wasallam), well people may try to, but that is prevented by the guards. But there is no tomb there, and the structure surrounding it is for the purpose of worshipping Allah and not the grave. Behind the gates there is no tomb, just sand... When the time for salaah comes, people face the qibla, and those who happen to be there next to the grave have their backs facing it, so obviously there is no shirk. The Saudis did not level the houses of Abu Bakr, 'Umar, Uthmaan, or 'Ali (Radiallahu Anhum). The Ottomans built masjids where their homes used to be, and presently those masjids are still there, and the Saudis are restoring them since they have become old. Other places which were leveled in Makkah and Madeenah were to make way for the Haram'ain expansions. |
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| Glorious Qaghan Status: Offline Posts: 3,288 Reputation: 13376 Rep Power: 35 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Airstrip One. Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
Yes it was, the Prophet (peace be upon him) was buried in his house. That house has become the Tomb inside the Masjid as the Masjid expanded and surrounded it. ![]() | |
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| Status: Offline Posts: 4,268 Reputation: 32160 Rep Power: 60 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ambala Boxes :( Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
i heard that they destroyed them, to build a car park or summin lol, i think quite a lot of stuff which has been removed is just rumours, there are many people out there who are againist saudi for one reason or another and they just like to make rumours up! Allah hu alim what has been removed, but most stuff was removed for the expansion of the mosque Quote:
"they ask you when will the help of Allah (swt) come! Certainly Allah (Swt) help is always near" Surah al Baqarah v214 | ||
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| Glorious Qaghan Status: Offline Posts: 3,288 Reputation: 13376 Rep Power: 35 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Airstrip One. Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
But that means that there is still a structure over the grave, is there not? And a dome is just an architectural feature anyway, just a type of Persian roof. If raised graves are forbidden, then how does that apply only to domes and not buildings? ![]() | |
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| LI's Fishter Status: Offline Posts: 5,226 Reputation: 36570 Rep Power: 73 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Along the Coast Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | I don't understand... It was done for the purposes of expansion to fit more people inside the masjid. The purpose of having the structure was not to worship Rasulullah (Salallahu Alayhi Wasallam), but to worship Allah. There isn't even a tomb on the grave, as is the case of some other graves... The Messenger Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and his two companions [Abu Bakr and ‘Umar] (may Allaah be pleased with them) were not buried in the mosque, rather they were buried in the house of ‘Aa’ishah, but when the mosque was expanded during the time of al-Waleed ibn ‘Abd al-Malik, the room was incorporated into the mosque, at the end of the first century AH. His action does not come under the ruling of burial in the mosque, because the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and his two companions were not moved to the land of the mosque, rather the room in which they are buried was incorporated into the mosque because of the expansion. No one can use this as evidence that it is permissible to build structures over graves or to take graves as places of worship, or to bury people inside mosques, because of the saheeh ahaadeeth quoted above which forbid that. What al-Waleed did is not evidence for going against the proven Sunnah of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). And Allaah is the Source of strength. |
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| Glorious Qaghan Status: Offline Posts: 3,288 Reputation: 13376 Rep Power: 35 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Airstrip One. Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | But there is still a structure built over it, is there not? Quote:
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