Help Please Salaatul Fajr !!!!!!! - Page 2

- Serene - · **Re: Help Please Salaatul Fajr !!!!!!! -** 07-04-2008

Ameen to the dua, but I don't get it. Why can't you sit on the plane seat and do the actions required for salaatul fajr and pray it

Güven · **Re: Help Please Salaatul Fajr !!!!!!! -** 07-04-2008

How Can I pray in a Plane Who knows wich direction it is Flying

- Serene - · **Re: Help Please Salaatul Fajr !!!!!!! -** 07-04-2008

Allaah Knows ur intention, all you have to do is make the actions of the prayer bro. That's what I did when I went to Umrah last time.

Güven · **Re: Help Please Salaatul Fajr !!!!!!! -** 07-04-2008

Ill Try InsaAllah

Ali. · **Re: Help Please Salaatul Fajr !!!!!!! -** 07-04-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Güven

How Can I pray in a Plane Who knows wich direction it is Flying

Take a compass with you maybe?

ayesha309 · **Re: Help Please Salaatul Fajr !!!!!!! -** 07-04-2008

bro dont miss it. it depends on your airline. i've prayed salaat standing as well in an airplane. Alhamdulilah they give you space in like the back part or something. you just have to do it real quick. and do wudhu in the aiprlane. its small but ask Allah and Insha'Allah you'll b able to. if you cant stand, then do sit and pray. and ask Allah to help you. He will always create a way for his devoted servant

bro der is always a map on the airplane tv that indicates which direction is north and gives you the world map. find saudi arabia on it

it shud b east

Güven · **Re: Help Please Salaatul Fajr !!!!!!! -** 07-04-2008

How do you perform the prayer while sitting ???
Just the usual actions??

Al-Zaara · **Re: Help Please Salaatul Fajr !!!!!!! -** 07-04-2008

My father prayed when he got out of surgery, whilst sitting/laying in the hospital bed. He couldn't change the direction, but made sincer intention. A lil bit movement with the head, as if he bowed. Rose his finger in the shahadah. And all the rest the same, in the end, right left movement with head.

I've done it in the plane, if they don't give you space. No drama in that, inshaAllah.

Güven · **Re: Help Please Salaatul Fajr !!!!!!! -** 07-04-2008

I will Try praying while sitting With sincere Intention InshAllah
And Hope that it will be Accepted

Al-Zaara · **Re: Help Please Salaatul Fajr !!!!!!! -** 07-04-2008

^ InshaAllah.

May you have an successful journey and a good stay at beatiful Türkiye, inshaAllah! Selam aleykum!

afzalaung · **Re: Help Please Salaatul Fajr !!!!!!! -** 07-05-2008

just few weeks ago i flew from Egypt to malaysia via dubai using emirates.
I on the way from Egypt to dubai i was gonna pray on the seat since the seat next to me was empty but the stewardess suggested that i pray on the aisle instead using a blanket as a sajadah/janamaz/prayer rug.

whereas on the way from dubai to malaysia, which was rather packed...(@fajr), since there was about 1 metre gap between the first row of seat and the toilet/partition, i asked the ladies at the front row if i could pray, they agreed, so i managed to perform fajr few thousand metres above the sea...i think it was marvellous..

oh..of coz..i was using emirates and they show the possition of the kiblah on the TV screen from time to time...i guess u can estimate it on ur own.

good luck

Kasim · **Re: Help Please Salaatul Fajr !!!!!!! -** 07-05-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al-Zaara

^ InshaAllah.

May you have an successful journey and a good stay at beatiful Türkiye, inshaAllah! Selam aleykum!

Inshallah.

silkworm · **Re: Help Please Salaatul Fajr !!!!!!! -** 07-05-2008

Brother, There is a term which is called "Qasr", i.e. if your intended travel is outside of 90 Miles, the "qasr" is wajib, means you can offer/pray it later. In a plane, especially when you do not know what directiont he plane is going, you cannot pray.

I also here offering the Qasr prayers means you shorten the Rakahs, means you can only offer the Farz Rakahs and can skip the Nafils or Sunnahs. I am positive about it.

- Serene - · **Re: Help Please Salaatul Fajr !!!!!!! -** 07-05-2008

Quote:

Brother, There is a term which is called "Qasr", i.e. if your intended travel is outside of 90 Miles, the "qasr" is wajib, means you can offer/pray it later. In a plane, especially when you do not know what directiont he plane is going, you cannot pray.

Have u got a daleel for this brother?

Quote:

I also here offering the Qasr prayers means you shorten the Rakahs, means you can only offer the Farz Rakahs and can skip the Nafils or Sunnahs. I am positive about it.

You do not have to pray the Sunnah or Nafl anyway, they are not obligatory. If you want to that is up to you. Qasr is when you go away from your home, up to 14 days travel, and you Qasr the Fardh in Zuhr, Asr and Isha. E.g. Read 2 instead of 4. Qasr does not imply shortening the prayer so you miss out the Sunnah and Nawafil.

silkworm · **Re: Help Please Salaatul Fajr !!!!!!! -** 07-05-2008

Thre should be no confusion, I am a follower of Imam Abu Hanifa, and I have had this question in mind, as I also travel a lot. OK, you said that you do not have to offer sunnah or nafil anyways, yeps, this is correct.

OK, if you have any questions regarding what I said you can go to I R F in India, or to the Imam of whatever Maslak you are following.

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ayesha309 LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 250 Reputation: 1610 Rep Power: 9 Join Date: Aug 2007 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Help Please Salaatul Fajr !!!!!!! - 07-04-2008 bro dont miss it. it depends on your airline. i've prayed salaat standing as well in an airplane. Alhamdulilah they give you space in like the back part or something. you just have to do it real quick. and do wudhu in the aiprlane. its small but ask Allah and Insha'Allah you'll b able to. if you cant stand, then do sit and pray. and ask Allah to help you. He will always create a way for his devoted servant bro der is always a map on the airplane tv that indicates which direction is north and gives you the world map. find saudi arabia on it it shud b east

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Al-Zaara LI's Hanafi Status: Offline Posts: 3,350 Reputation: 30975 Rep Power: 57 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Finland Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Help Please Salaatul Fajr !!!!!!! - 07-04-2008 My father prayed when he got out of surgery, whilst sitting/laying in the hospital bed. He couldn't change the direction, but made sincer intention. A lil bit movement with the head, as if he bowed. Rose his finger in the shahadah. And all the rest the same, in the end, right left movement with head. I've done it in the plane, if they don't give you space. No drama in that, inshaAllah. __________________ I'd call you a genius but I'm also here.

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silkworm Member Status: Offline Posts: 91 Reputation: 137 Rep Power: 7 Join Date: Aug 2007 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Help Please Salaatul Fajr !!!!!!! - 07-05-2008 Brother, There is a term which is called "Qasr", i.e. if your intended travel is outside of 90 Miles, the "qasr" is wajib, means you can offer/pray it later. In a plane, especially when you do not know what directiont he plane is going, you cannot pray. I also here offering the Qasr prayers means you shorten the Rakahs, means you can only offer the Farz Rakahs and can skip the Nafils or Sunnahs. I am positive about it.

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silkworm Member Status: Offline Posts: 91 Reputation: 137 Rep Power: 7 Join Date: Aug 2007 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Help Please Salaatul Fajr !!!!!!! - 07-05-2008 Thre should be no confusion, I am a follower of Imam Abu Hanifa, and I have had this question in mind, as I also travel a lot. OK, you said that you do not have to offer sunnah or nafil anyways, yeps, this is correct. OK, if you have any questions regarding what I said you can go to I R F in India, or to the Imam of whatever Maslak you are following.