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Default I've returned to Christ - 07-20-2008

After only 4 days of becoming muslim and then having a "break" so to speak i've returned to my belief in Jesus Christ as the Son of God and the trinity, i would like to remain on this forum though to discuss christianity with muslims that have questions about it.
   
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Salaam Brother,

Why do you beleive that Isa' Peace Be Upon Him, is the son of god?

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ok brother as you wish

[19.29] But she pointed to him. They said: How should we speak to one who was a child in the cradle?
[19.30] He said: Surely I am a servant of Allah; He has given me the Book and made me a prophet;
[19.31] And He has made me blessed wherever I may be, and He has enjoined on me prayer and poor-rate so long as I live;
[19.32] And dutiful to my mother, and He has not made me insolent, unblessed;
[19.33] And peace on me on the day I was born, and on the day I die, and on the day I am raised to life.
[19.34] Such is Isa, son of Marium; (this is) the saying of truth about which they dispute.
[19.35] It beseems not Allah that He should take to Himself a ! son, glory to be Him; when He has decreed a matter He only says to it "Be," and it is.
[19.36] And surely Allah is my Lord and your Lord, therefore serve Him; this is the right path.
[19.37] But parties from among them disagreed with each other, so woe to those who disbelieve, because of presence on a great
[19.38] How clearly shall they hear and how clearly shall they see on the day when they come to Us; but the unjust this day are in manifest error.

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[19.90] The heavens may almost be rent thereat, and the earth cleave asunder, and the mountains fall down in pieces,
[19.91] That they ascribe a son to the Beneficent God.
[19.92] And it is not worthy of the Beneficent God that He should take (to Himself) a son.
[19.93] There is no one in the heavens and the earth but will come to the Beneficent God as a servant.
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After only 4 days of becoming muslim and then having a "break" so to speak i've returned to my belief in Jesus Christ as the Son of God and the trinity, i would like to remain on this forum though to discuss christianity with muslims that have questions about it.
"Surely, disbelievers are those who said: ‘Allah is the third of the three (in a Trinity).’ But there is no Ilaah (god) (none who has the right to be worshipped) but One Ilaah (God —Allah). And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall on the disbelievers among them"

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Well because the only real encounters i've had with God are when i've prayed to him as or in the name of Jesus. Also bits in the Qur'an similar to the bible, the fact that the bible was about 500 years old when the Qur'an was aparently revealed to Mohammed, seems suspicious. I know in my heart that in Jesus i can rest assured i will not see eternal torment. When i pray to God, when i read the bible and really understand, i feel a great sense of peace and love that could only come from God.
   
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Well, if you're convinced and happy all I can say is don't travel to Saudi Arabia as you're officially an apostate now.

I hope you didn't fake your conversion only to be able to return to Christ later.
   
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This doesnt tell me anything why Christians believe that Jesus is Gods son.

The Prophet Isa never once stated he was the son of god. He reitterated that he was only a servant, prophet.

He could do miracles yes, but that doesnt justify why he was the son of god. Hundreds of prophets came and done miracles but non were mentioned as the sonf of God.

It is a grave sin to associate partners with Allah.

He is One ! its says this in the bible in the quran torah. One. How can he have a son? when he is one? is jesus was his son that would make him God Like therefore not making God one.
   
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Brother, If you gave Islam a chance you would see that Allah gives peace in every action we muslims do, although we do not see it sometime, Reading Quran is one way of attaining peace, Praying in humilty 5 times a day and bowing down so many times a day gives another peace.

Peace that no other religion gives. Chritsians read a bible that has changed over the years. how can thats give you peace knowing the words have been changed?
   
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deep down your still lost and confused.

you'll find your way to the straight path again once your older, stronger and more able.

untill you reach that good luck.
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Well because the only real encounters i've had with God are when i've prayed to him as or in the name of Jesus. Also bits in the Qur'an similar to the bible, the fact that the bible was about 500 years old when the Qur'an was aparently revealed to Mohammed, seems suspicious. I know in my heart that in Jesus i can rest assured i will not see eternal torment. When i pray to God, when i read the bible and really understand, i feel a great sense of peace and love that could only come from God.
yep this is a significant reason to why some people suddenly turn to christianity, they want the easy way out - a simple belief that somehow protects them from punishment not matter what the deed, and eventually let them attain paradise

I don't think its meant to be that easy - this life is a test, which requires a bit of effort to pass
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SUSPICION IN ISLAM IS WRONG but i knew it from the beginning that the conversion was a fake

the reason i say this is because of alil research i did on previous posts

this post shows great deal of joy from someone that is happy who found something to cling on
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Lots of replies, i feel so welcome

Thanks everyone i love you all!

Most importantly i love Allah for loving me and showing me mercy when i needed it the most. Al Hamdulillah!
But the post below is very spontaneous and by reading the above post you'd never think in million years the same person would write the post below in the space of 2 DAYS maybe im wrong and he was a muslim but he got mentally out muscled by the shaitan who persuaded him that he is giving up his youth and lifestyle,allah know best

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I've decided to take a break from religion.
I just want to enjoy my youth while i still have it, doing things what people of my age do.

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I was sincere about Islam but deep down i still knew that Christianity is the truth. Verses such as the one that mentions the Holy Spirit, and Christians being people of the book only encouraged these deep down thoughts and feelings.

I would gladly go to Mecca and Preach the Gospel but it would be insensitive of me.
   
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I would gladly go to Mecca and Preach the Gospel but it would be insensitive of me.
No worries, Mecca is out of bounds for non-muslims.
   
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Your first post brother why are you playing around with us you clearly said christianity confused you,what happened!!

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I was a Christian but Christianity just really confused me, eventually i became the same old sinner me but then i started watching videos about Islam on YouTube and from what i've heard Islam is the perfect religion.
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Brother,

I reall want to know what you would preach?

How would you preach to muslims who are the most content in their religion?

How much dawah do you see muslims trying to spread in the world? compared to how much preaching christianaty does.

Islam is the fastst growing relgion in the world and has been for many years now. why is this? think about it? despite all the negativity that the media brings upon Islam it allows islam to grow stronger. Why ?

I tell you why, becuase people go and look at islam and find out for themselves what islam teaches and after they edcate themselves they see that Islam really is true !

Allah is One. One means one. if you have a son you cant be one.

Christianity beleives in One god. explain why Jesus is gods son.
   
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