Islamic States Vs. Muslim Countries

transition? · **Islamic States Vs. Muslim Countries -** 10-15-2008

I was recently reading the distinction of an Islamic country and a Muslim country.

Islamic country is one that adheres to only Sharia Law
while a
Muslim country is one that has a majority of Muslims, but does not strictly adhere to Islamic law and is most likely to have a mix of different law, incorporating some Islamic law.

One person made a point that there are no Islamic countries anymore, only Muslim countries.

I was wondering about Saudi Arabia. Is it not an Islamic country?

**Jawharah** · **Re: Islamic States Vs. Muslim Countries -** 10-15-2008

No, it is a Muslim country. It does not strictly adhere to Shariah 100%. One very obvious point is that they are a monarchy, and monarchy is not part of Shariah. But they are the strictest of all Muslim countries I think.

The Khan · **Re: Islamic States Vs. Muslim Countries -** 10-15-2008

I consider Iran as having the best form of Sharia. I consider it to be a true Islamic state.

transition? · **Re: Islamic States Vs. Muslim Countries -** 10-16-2008

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Originally Posted by Jawharah

No, it is a Muslim country. It does not strictly adhere to Shariah 100%. One very obvious point is that they are a monarchy, and monarchy is not part of Shariah. But they are the strictest of all Muslim countries I think.

Someone said that not allowing women to drive was a more cultural thing, is that true?

The Khan · 01:29 AM

Yes, it is 100% cultural.

Saudi is planning to remove that law, with a few restrictions.

These cultural aspects have been intergrated with Salafi doctrine. The Salafis and the monarchy have a mutual agreement with each other. Without the dominance of Salafi influenced Sharia, the monarchy will collapse, for the majority of the population follows Salafi thought.

transition? · **Re: Islamic States Vs. Muslim Countries -** 10-16-2008

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Originally Posted by The Khan

Yes, it is 100% cultural.

Saudi is planning to remove that law, with a few restrictions.

Do they have any information online anywhere about it?

I'm gonna search these forums.

Thanks brother.

The Khan · **Re: Islamic States Vs. Muslim Countries -** 10-16-2008

You're welcome Okhee. ^^

Search on Google News, it did make international headlines a few months back.

**Jawharah** · **Re: Islamic States Vs. Muslim Countries -** 10-16-2008

Yeah, Saudi women are expected be able to drive sometime this year or early next year. I haven't heard any reports of the King actually lifting the ban, there were just stating back then they are seriously considering it.

I disagree that Iran is an Islamic country, they're also just a Muslim country.

The Khan · **Re: Islamic States Vs. Muslim Countries -** 10-16-2008

Maybe so, Okhee. Do you think there are any true Islamic states?

Quite a few countries call themselves "Islamic republic of..."

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transition? To Him I return Status: Offline Posts: 329 Reputation: 931 Rep Power: 10 Join Date: Jul 2007 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Islamic States Vs. Muslim Countries - 10-15-2008 I was recently reading the distinction of an Islamic country and a Muslim country. Islamic country is one that adheres to only Sharia Law while a Muslim country is one that has a majority of Muslims, but does not strictly adhere to Islamic law and is most likely to have a mix of different law, incorporating some Islamic law. One person made a point that there are no Islamic countries anymore, only Muslim countries. I was wondering about Saudi Arabia. Is it not an Islamic country? __________________

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Jawharah LI's Fishter Status: Online Posts: 5,226 Reputation: 36608 Rep Power: 73 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Along the Coast Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Islamic States Vs. Muslim Countries - 10-15-2008 No, it is a Muslim country. It does not strictly adhere to Shariah 100%. One very obvious point is that they are a monarchy, and monarchy is not part of Shariah. But they are the strictest of all Muslim countries I think. __________________ I'd rather fight for what I believe in, then be loved for being silent on something I totally disagree with... And if I offend you in the process, I'm sorry. Really.

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The Khan Free Thinker Status: Offline Posts: 456 Reputation: 1774 Rep Power: 3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Royal State of Hyderabad Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Islamic States Vs. Muslim Countries - 10-15-2008 I consider Iran as having the best form of Sharia. I consider it to be a true Islamic state. __________________ Faith not supported by reason and empirical evidence is wishful thinking. All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

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The Khan Free Thinker Status: Offline Posts: 456 Reputation: 1774 Rep Power: 3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Royal State of Hyderabad Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Islamic States Vs. Muslim Countries - 10-16-2008 Yes, it is 100% cultural. Saudi is planning to remove that law, with a few restrictions. These cultural aspects have been intergrated with Salafi doctrine. The Salafis and the monarchy have a mutual agreement with each other. Without the dominance of Salafi influenced Sharia, the monarchy will collapse, for the majority of the population follows Salafi thought. __________________ Faith not supported by reason and empirical evidence is wishful thinking. All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Last edited by The Khan; 10-16-2008 at 01:29 AM..

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The Khan Free Thinker Status: Offline Posts: 456 Reputation: 1774 Rep Power: 3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Royal State of Hyderabad Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Islamic States Vs. Muslim Countries - 10-16-2008 You're welcome Okhee. ^^ Search on Google News, it did make international headlines a few months back. __________________ Faith not supported by reason and empirical evidence is wishful thinking. All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

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Jawharah LI's Fishter Status: Online Posts: 5,226 Reputation: 36608 Rep Power: 73 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Along the Coast Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Islamic States Vs. Muslim Countries - 10-16-2008 Yeah, Saudi women are expected be able to drive sometime this year or early next year. I haven't heard any reports of the King actually lifting the ban, there were just stating back then they are seriously considering it. I disagree that Iran is an Islamic country, they're also just a Muslim country. __________________ I'd rather fight for what I believe in, then be loved for being silent on something I totally disagree with... And if I offend you in the process, I'm sorry. Really.

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The Khan Free Thinker Status: Offline Posts: 456 Reputation: 1774 Rep Power: 3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Royal State of Hyderabad Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Islamic States Vs. Muslim Countries - 10-16-2008 Maybe so, Okhee. Do you think there are any true Islamic states? Quite a few countries call themselves "Islamic republic of..." __________________ Faith not supported by reason and empirical evidence is wishful thinking. All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.