It was recognized by the UN.

Originally Posted by Boaz

It was recognized by the UN.

I thought so.

cateyes, please dont trust the U.S. media! I was born and raised here and I most deff do not trust a thing the U.S. media says. You should watch Al-Jazeera or BBC, even BBC can be iffy at times, but Al-Jazeera never fails in my eyes at least.

Oh, and al-Jazeera is not biased at all, is it?

Originally Posted by Ferown

There are some Israeli's who are against the occupation. You can hate the regime but not all Jews in Israel.

How can an Israeli (a citizen of Israel) be against the occupation of palestine when their very state Israel, and their nationality Israeli was built on said occupation? I don't get it.
I understand that not all jews are for Israel and that not all Jewish people are zionist but i've heard this statement said before and it just strike me as wierd.
salam

I don't know who to believe.. The media or the government??

What we see on the news, internet, youtube etc... Is not exactly the truth until u see it with your own eyes.. I don't blame any community.. Be it Muslims, Jewish, Christian, Bhuddist etc.. We got to live together in peace n harmony.. And our duty as a Muslim is only to convey the message of Islam in a peaceful and professional way.

With what's happening in Iraq, Afghanistan etc.. One has to analyse the current situation (by being there), stop blaming communities and religion (to avoid conflicts n false rumours) and to work together to solve the problems in peaceful manner (there are 101 ways to do so before grabbing and gun/sword)..

Yes, there are people and communities that have been ashtray because they do not have common sense or are too weak to make the right decision.. Before we start assuming that Jewish are killing Muslims, we got to stop Muslims killing Muslims and unite.

The beloved Prophet never made false rumours until He saw it for Himself to believe the claim and used the sword as a last resource if no other measure worked..

Originally Posted by Lisa0

How can an Israeli (a citizen of Israel) be against the occupation of palestine when their very state Israel, and their nationality Israeli was built on said occupation? I don't get it.
I understand that not all jews are for Israel and that not all Jewish people are zionist but i've heard this statement said before and it just strike me as wierd.
salam

A lot of people were born in Israel, and so did not have a choice about being on occupied land. It is also within someones means to change their mind on the matter. I'm not saying there are many people like that, in fact the percentage is quite small since the Israeli governments approval ratings are consistently high.
One of them was on Al Jazeera or BBC News during the Gaza war/massacre. I think his name was "Yonatan Shapira", he was in the Israeli army before he realised his actions were wrong. Since then I've heard of more.

Originally Posted by waqas maqsood

Before we start assuming that Jewish are killing Muslims, we got to stop Muslims killing Muslims and unite.

I guess you slept through the Gaza war? and the war before that? and the one before that? and the current blockade?

Originally Posted by SMA89

I agree and I am guilty aswell because I am also a muslim that has been brought up with the Islamic teachings but now I dont follow to much of Islam. However, I am still a good person and have good values in me. I know right from wrong and I am doing good in this world. There are people who aren't religious that are still good in heart but try to talk to them and understand them before you make judgments about that person. At the end of the day, your daughter/son has the right to make his decisions, well after 18 that is.

At the end of the day, your daughter/son has the right to make his decisions, well after 18 that is.[/QUOTE]

Thats a more western way of thinking isn't it? Although my son is only 7, when he is 18 the only decision he is allowed to make on his own is what clothes he may want to wear, ....after my approval of course. Your children should grow up honoring their parents (you/me),and doing as they are told, especially when we feed them, clothe them, put a roof over their head, buy their cars and pay for overpriced educations. My son may make all of his own decisions after he becomes a MAN, meaning he is living on his own, married and can support his own family. I grew up differently i guess? I was raised under a strict Roman Catholic understanding of life and an extremely strict and cultured Italian family. .....heck dude, my mother still makes decisions for me and i'm 30!....but thats an Italian thing i guess

Anyone under the age of 18, or older and still living with your parents reading this right now, remember...1.) Honor God 2.) HONOR THY MOTHER AND FATHER!

God bless.

Originally Posted by Boaz

It was recognized by the UN.

You are talking about the same 'UN' which was formulated by the 'Fake Jews' in Israel and America to control the world.

I urge everyone to watch Jack Otto expose these 'Fake Jews' who are illegally occupying PALESTINE. (Links below) You will not regret it

Jack Otto Exposing The Fake Jews And Talking about The New World Order:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66zOgVAnIgE

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhw9ecZsMEU

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5W6V5uT-SQ

Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tQZu4PKmbw

Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbUWfvXZcpc

Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qizsRCWyUE

Also watch Sheikh Imran Hosein's lecture, Its fascinating and an eyeopener: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNbbY9si-6o

Originally Posted by Troubled Soul

You are talking about the same 'UN' which was formulated by the 'Fake Jews' in Israel and America to control the world.

I urge everyone to watch Jack Otto expose these 'Fake Jews' who are illegally occupying PALESTINE. (Links below) You will not regret it

Jack Otto Exposing The Fake Jews And Talking about The New World Order:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66zOgVAnIgE

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhw9ecZsMEU

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5W6V5uT-SQ

Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tQZu4PKmbw

Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbUWfvXZcpc

Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qizsRCWyUE

Also watch Sheikh Imran Hosein's lecture, Its fascinating and an eyeopener: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNbbY9si-6o

Fake Jews? What are they made of....plastic Who says there isn't fake everybody, Muslims, Christians ect. ect? In that case I could be Illuminati.... dun..dun....dunnnnnnnnnn.

Originally Posted by Italianguy

Fake Jews? What are they made of....plastic Who says there isn't fake everybody, Muslims, Christians ect. ect? In that case I could be Illuminati.... dun..dun....dunnnnnnnnnn.

If you bother to watch the videos you will know what i mean by 'Fake Jews' These people who claim to be Jews in Israel are in fact not, These individuals are masquerading themselves as Jews but they are really 'Khazars'

Do your research on the Khazar Empire and you will be astonished

Originally Posted by Italianguy

At the end of the day, your daughter/son has the right to make his decisions, well after 18 that is.

Thats a more western way of thinking isn't it? Although my son is only 7, when he is 18 the only decision he is allowed to make on his own is what clothes he may want to wear, ....after my approval of course. Your children should grow up honoring their parents (you/me),and doing as they are told, especially when we feed them, clothe them, put a roof over their head, buy their cars and pay for overpriced educations. My son may make all of his own decisions after he becomes a MAN, meaning he is living on his own, married and can support his own family. I grew up differently i guess? I was raised under a strict Roman Catholic understanding of life and an extremely strict and cultured Italian family. .....heck dude, my mother still makes decisions for me and i'm 30!....but thats an Italian thing i guess

Anyone under the age of 18, or older and still living with your parents reading this right now, remember...1.) Honor God 2.) HONOR THY MOTHER AND FATHER!

God bless.[/QUOTE]

You have a lucky son. I did not get a penny from my parents since Grade 10. I am 20 and in 2nd year University. I bought my own clothes, my own car, paid for my insurance, paid cell phone bills and currently paying my Tuition for University (I also help parents pay for their mortgage) but to be honest I am happy they didnt give me much because I learned a lot about the real world. I also ran 2 small businesses starting at the age of 19 and pursue on starting my own business. I also honor my parents but it is a difficult situation for me because my mom is religious and my dad is not. I am a muslim but I went to a catholic school also but it wasn't very strict. I believe in God but not religion (well I have doubts).

Originally Posted by SMA89

Thats a more western way of thinking isn't it? Although my son is only 7, when he is 18 the only decision he is allowed to make on his own is what clothes he may want to wear, ....after my approval of course. Your children should grow up honoring their parents (you/me),and doing as they are told, especially when we feed them, clothe them, put a roof over their head, buy their cars and pay for overpriced educations. My son may make all of his own decisions after he becomes a MAN, meaning he is living on his own, married and can support his own family. I grew up differently i guess? I was raised under a strict Roman Catholic understanding of life and an extremely strict and cultured Italian family. .....heck dude, my mother still makes decisions for me and i'm 30!....but thats an Italian thing i guess

Anyone under the age of 18, or older and still living with your parents reading this right now, remember...1.) Honor God 2.) HONOR THY MOTHER AND FATHER!

God bless.

You have a lucky son. I did not get a penny from my parents since Grade 10. I am 20 and in 2nd year University. I bought my own clothes, my own car, paid for my insurance, paid cell phone bills and currently paying my Tuition for University (I also help parents pay for their mortgage) but to be honest I am happy they didnt give me much because I learned a lot about the real world. I also ran 2 small businesses starting at the age of 19 and pursue on starting my own business. I also honor my parents but it is a difficult situation for me because my mom is religious and my dad is not. I am a muslim but I went to a catholic school also but it wasn't very strict. I believe in God but not religion (well I have doubts).[/QUOTE]

We all have doubts sometimes my friend. I have the utmost respect for what you do! Paying for school, helping your parents, thats awesome! I understand, I actually skipped college for a year......My mother wanted to disown me....no joke! I turned down an acceptance to GWU....i admit that was EXTREMELY stupid. I know of a ton of Muslims and Hindu's whom have gone to Catholic schools...as I did. It's a good education overall.

God bless you sir! Your good deeds will not go unrecognised.

Originally Posted by Troubled Soul

If you bother to watch the videos you will know what i mean by 'Fake Jews' These people who claim to be Jews in Israel are in fact not, These individuals are masquerading themselves as Jews but they are really 'Khazars'

Do your research on the Khazar Empire and you will be astonished

Do you have a link for the Khazar Empire? I don't want to use wiki if you know what i mean.

God bless.

Originally Posted by Italianguy

Do you have a link for the Khazar Empire? I don't want to use wiki if you know what i mean.

God bless.

Sheikh Imran Hosein: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNbbY9si-6o

If you want to know more, watch the videos i posted before