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    Default Re: Dr. Zakir Naik, Shahrukh Khan, Soha Ali Khan on NDTV


    thx for sharing

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    Default Re: Dr. Zakir Naik, Shahrukh Khan, Soha Ali Khan on NDTV


    the guy in the black shirt is annoying lol he keeps on interrupting dr. zakir naik





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    Default Re: Dr. Zakir Naik, Shahrukh Khan, Soha Ali Khan on NDTV


    they dont really allow Dr naik to talk, um isnt bollywood haram.

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    I agreed to everything that ShahRukh Khan said.

    Not the exact words but this is what he said:
    "Just because you are not a specialist in Islam doesnt make you less of a muslim."
    I remember KittenLover made a whole thread questioning if we should call a Moderate muslim a muslim or not. The answer is if he submits to God, then he is a muslim. Even Dr. Naik said that. A Christian is a Muslim, a Jew is a Muslim and etc.
    Most of the people on this forum are TOO Strict and Extreme. I am happy you posted this video, so we can see different views of muslims.

    "It is better to feel like a muslim than to look like one."
    I really liked this quote because I am doing everything good as a human being and I am confident enough that I know that Allah loves me for what I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMA89 View Post

    I remember KittenLover made a whole thread questioning if we should call a Moderate muslim a muslim or not. The answer is if he submits to God, then he is a muslim. Even Dr. Naik said that. A Christian is a Muslim, a Jew is a Muslim and etc.
    may allah guide us a protect us...maybe this is what these three individuals Dr. Zakir Naik, Shahrukh Khan, Soha Ali Khan are upon...


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    well i believe that Allah can judge a person at the end of the day..we has humans have no say in what others do and we should not be calling eachother kufir!

    What will inshaAllah get us into jannah is believing on the kalma how ever this DOSE NOT mean that u believe on half the Qur'an and hadiths and disbelieving in da rest of it because if you have then you have not totally submitted yourself 2 god.

    I do agree in lot of stuf with shahruk has said because the bottom line is Allah wil judge whats in da heart on the day of resurrection and not what u went about wearing in this dunya.

    There is muslimz who cover head to toe, that dose not mean to say he or she is guided. You never know what they are hiding in there hearts.

    Shahkuk is an actor and he singz too the thing i liked is that he admitted it was wrong and maybe who knws, for ths ALLah cud guide him and put him in jannah 4 his honesty.

    May ALLah guide him. Ameen
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    Default Re: Dr. Zakir Naik, Shahrukh Khan, Soha Ali Khan on NDTV


    ^^

    Completely Agree with you there. Who are we to Judge? If we stopped judging one another, maybe life will become a little better.....

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    Default Re: Dr. Zakir Naik, Shahrukh Khan, Soha Ali Khan on NDTV


    It was live, but I missed it. did anyone attend it live? I heard it was broadcasted on the net.

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    My personal thing on Bollywood specifically... People who watch it tend to be so dramatic about life. They work in extreme emotions and want their lives to be fairytales. They want their potential wife's dupatta to fly on their faces and find love that way. Really, it's stupid yet makes me laugh. Every movie has the same plot.

    Mind you, I don't want Bollywood. Or Hollywood for that matter.

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    Firstly thank you posting this, I had no idea about this show and the discussion. Its such a complex topic some would say if you dont pray your not muslim. I heard a quote by Yvonne Ridley saying that being muslim is like being pregnant u either are or ur not.

    Another thing i agreed with what Shahrukh said that Allah may forgive u abt certaint things but the society wont. The thing is the media has a lot to do with the perception of Islam. Especially after 9/11 i think everyone has heard the word muslim so frequently like we've become famous lol but not for the right reasons


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    Just watched most of it.

    Well, SRK, I do not really like him but he has some valid points. Although I disagree when he says that he can believe that he is a Muslim even though he does not follow orthodox thinking. It is this free license that irks me. People want to believe they are something yet cherry pick in it.

    I found the stupidest comments devoid of any thinking of Soha Ali Khan. She just was repeating the secular mantra. She wanted to talk about Indian identity. There is no Indian identity. we have for long been duped by Indian/Pakistani nationalism.


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    I would not trust zakir naik nor take knowledge from him. You're eman and akhira is on the line, are you going to entrust it to a weak link or the best scholar you can find? Do you go to any laymen doctor or one that knows what he's talking about?

    His ideology is questionable as well as his manhaj. Before some of you lots decided to jump on me for "talking bad about a scholar" and other blah blah blah, educate yourself on what he preaches. I devoted a whole thread to his ideology and comparison of what he said vs what the more knowledgeable and respected scholars have said on same topics here:

    http://forum.netmuslims.com/showthre...ght=zakir+naik

    As for shahrukh khan, People like to say he is a muslim and even he says he is a muslim. But is he really? he is a married to a hindu women which is not allowed in islam, therefore his marriage is invalid, he is living a life of zina and all his kids are illegitimate. I believe he also worships hindu gods, he said he has them and the quran on the same desk and he teaches his kids to practice both religions equally. Is he still a muslim? Actions speak louder than words, look at his life and then look at what Islam says and see for yourself. Same goes for salman khan and his family.

    As for bollywood, yes it is haram. It promotes nothing but haraam. All their movies are about love, girl going against her parents to run away with her love, fighting bad guys who always are muslims, the lovers are always a hindu guy and a muslim girl and never vice versa. Bollywood movies had such a negative impact that hindus started complaining about their daughters running away from home with their lovers. Then you saw the release of movies like Khabi Gham Khabi Khushi to educate the dumb public about family values. Here's the bollywood ignorant cultural muslims promote:

    Bollywood Badboyz
    http://www.youtube.com/v/S2-Sk0KdbXc&rel=1

    Truth about Bollywood
    http://www.youtube.com/v/wy-gLNSbU88


    As for people on this forum being too strict. The ignorant and culturally drenched "musilms" will find everything related to Islam strict because it is so much against their hindu based culture. For example, in hindu society the brother-in-law is seen a best friend where as in Islam he is seen as death. The sisters of the wife hang around him, joking, playing, being alone and what not as if its nothing. So when these people here about what islam says and how they should behave with brother in law, they object and say islam is too strict. It's either Islam or your hindu based culture, you can't have both.
    Last edited by islamirama; 03-14-2010 at 07:48 PM.

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    Islamirama I actually do agree with u, when i started reading ur comment i was gna be like WHAT THE.... but its true people should look at many scholars and not just one however DR Zakir Naik is good at explaining certain things and the way he tlks is easy to understand for many of us.

    As for Bollywood people are mad about it for some reason, i cant stand it, people love indian music n film! For example bengali and pakistani people dnt evn wna be associated to their culture (even though religion is more important) its so weird.

    P.S Soha was annoying me she just didnt want to talk about anything why did they get her on the show, shes saying religion should be private etc but thats not hw it is the whole world is talking abt religion more than ever


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    Quote Originally Posted by islamirama View Post
    I would not trust zakir naik nor take knowledge from him. You're eman and akhira is on the line, are you going to entrust it to a weak link or the best scholar you can find? Do you go to any laymen doctor or one that knows what he's talking about?

    His ideology is questionable as well as his manhaj. Before some of you lots decided to jump on me for "talking bad about a scholar" and other blah blah blah, educate yourself on what he preaches. I devoted a whole thread to his ideology and comparison of what he said vs what the more knowledgeable and respected scholars have said on same topics here:

    http://forum.netmuslims.com/showthre...ght=zakir+naik

    As for shahrukh khan, People like to say he is a muslim and even he says he is a muslim. But is he really? he is a married to a hindu women which is not allowed in islam, therefore his marriage is invalid, he is living a life of zina and all his kids are illegitimate. I believe he also worships hindu gods, he said he has them and the quran on the same desk and he teaches his kids to practice both religions equally. Is he still a muslim? Actions speak louder than words, look at his life and then look at what Islam says and see for yourself. Same goes for salman khan and his family.

    As for bollywood, yes it is haram. It promotes nothing but haraam. All their movies are about love, girl going against her parents to run away with her love, fighting bad guys who always are muslims, the lovers are always a hindu guy and a muslim girl and never vice versa. Bollywood movies had such a negative impact that hindus started complaining about their daughters running away from home with their lovers. Then you saw the release of movies like Khabi Gham Khabi Khushi to educate the dumb public about family values. Here's the bollywood ignorant cultural muslims promote:

    Bollywood Badboyz
    http://www.youtube.com/v/S2-Sk0KdbXc&rel=1

    Truth about Bollywood
    http://www.youtube.com/v/wy-gLNSbU88


    As for people on this forum being too strict. The ignorant and culturally drenched "musilms" will find everything related to Islam strict because it is so much against their hindu based culture. For example, in hindu society the brother-in-law is seen a best friend where as in Islam he is seen as death. The sisters of the wife hang around him, joking, playing, being alone and what not as if its nothing. So when these people here about what islam says and how they should behave with brother in law, they object and say islam is too strict. It's either Islam or your hindu based culture, you can't have both.
    beautiful akhi. Seems you are from a desi background like me and are aware of what goes in our families.


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    Quote Originally Posted by paradise786 View Post

    P.S Soha was annoying me she just didnt want to talk about anything why did they get her on the show, shes saying religion should be private etc but thats not hw it is the whole world is talking abt religion more than ever
    Not completely true. People in the west dont even think about religion. The world in the west is very secular and moving really fast that people dont have time for religion. You see it that way because your environment is around people that follow religion im guessing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad_scientist View Post
    beautiful akhi. Seems you are from a desi background like me and are aware of what goes in our families.
    You don't need to be a desi to know what goes on in this families. Just live in a desi community and you'll find out. We had a chinese Imam from medina visiting our community a year or two back and he was giving a small khatira and he was talking about bollywood, shahrukh khan, ashraiwaiya and what not and how desi people need to leave that stuff and return to islam.

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    people love these kinds of shows, it makes them think theyre making progress....


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    Quote Originally Posted by islamirama View Post
    You don't need to be a desi to know what goes on in this families. Just live in a desi community and you'll find out. We had a chinese Imam from medina visiting our community a year or two back and he was giving a small khatira and he was talking about bollywood, shahrukh khan, ashraiwaiya and what not and how desi people need to leave that stuff and return to islam.
    Interesting. I dont know and dont have much interest anyways in knowing what goes among Muslims from Arab culture, Indonesian culture, or Chinese culture, thats why i found it surprising non-desis knowing that much detail about desis. I guess I underestimated the impact of bollywood on the world.

    After watching this show, it is clear how living in a country with various religions (India) can change thinking of a Muslim child compared to the one living in a country with only one major religion (Pakistan, where 95% ppl are Muslim), even though both share similar cultures, foods, traditions, and what not.

    the guy brought Jinnah in. It should be kept in mind that Jinnah was nothing more than a political force for shaping the Pakistani ideal. Pakistan's idea was presented forth by a traditional Sunni Muslim Allama Mohammad Iqbal, the great poet-philosopher of Muslims in recent times, no doubt why Muslim scholars in India who wanted United India gave idiotic fatwas against this visionary. It irks me when secular Jinnah is given all the credit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mad_scientist View Post
    Interesting. I dont know and dont have much interest anyways in knowing what goes among Muslims from Arab culture, Indonesian culture, or Chinese culture, thats why i found it surprising non-desis knowing that much detail about desis. I guess I underestimated the impact of bollywood on the world.
    The arabs watch bollywood movies also, at least the ones in the west. Bro in my community says after watching 2-3 times he gets the story easily. Bollywood is also very famous in indonesi and especially in malaysia. you have many malays hardcore fans of bollywood actors/actresses.

    the guy brought Jinnah in. It should be kept in mind that Jinnah was nothing more than a political force for shaping the Pakistani ideal. Pakistan's idea was presented forth by a traditional Sunni Muslim Allama Mohammad Iqbal, the great poet-philosopher of Muslims in recent times, no doubt why Muslim scholars in India who wanted United India gave idiotic fatwas against this visionary. It irks me when secular Jinnah is given all the credit.
    All the founding fathers of Pakistan were short sighted and because of this they lost out on what they could've had vs what they have now.
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