poor guys, desperately trying to avoid conflict

Thank you for posting this video. The speaker spoke eloquently and within 41 minutes, destroyed the propaganda western mainstream media had presented for years about the Taliban. It even cleared some of my misconceptions too.

Originally Posted by Guestfellow

Thank you for posting this video. The speaker spoke eloquently and within 41 minutes, destroyed the propaganda western mainstream media had presented for years about the Taliban. It even cleared some of my misconceptions too.

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How do you know what he's saying isn't propaganda?

Originally Posted by ChargerCarl

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How do you know what he's saying isn't propaganda?

Why we always like to believe what media tells us? These poor people are making proganda whereas americans are quite true. Come on, after these many years of 9/11, things are clear and bright like sun.

You didn't answer the question.

I'm not sure why, but it seems like a lot of members here blindly support the Taliban, and take every opportunity to show how amazingly Muslim and misunderstood they are... I'm not going to take a side here since I don't know all that much about the actual Taliban, but the thing is, I'm pretty sure most people here don't have a lot of actual experience with the Taliban either, and yet we find vehement supporters everywhere... All I do know (and I've mentioned this before) is that some people from Afghanistan have some pretty horrific tales regarding the Taliban, and that should be enough to at least show some of you that perhaps we can't be so quick to completely support them...

Again, I'm not taking a side. (I've learned that that's probably not a very smart thing to do here) I understand that whatever stories I might hear might not represent ALL of the Taliban, but I'm just kind of tired of the blind support, and the aggressive behavior directed at those who bring up points that are against the Taliban...

[And no, I didn't watch the video... But the things I said were more general anyway, so it's okay. I'll watch it eventually.]

Originally Posted by ChargerCarl

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How do you know what he's saying isn't propaganda?

Read history books, keep up with the news everyday, watch documentaries and listen to lectures. That is what I do. You will find that the government version of events does not make sense and there are inconsistencies. The mainstream media has not presented both
sides of the story, especially in America.

Tyrion

I'm not sure why, but it seems like a lot of members here blindly support the Taliban,

No, not blind support. Like I mentioned earlier, read history books, watch documentaries, keep a eye on the news and listen to lectures. This will help.

Again, I'm not taking a side. (I've learned that that's probably not a very smart thing to do here) I understand that whatever stories I might hear might not represent ALL of the Taliban, but I'm just kind of tired of the blind support, and the aggressive behavior directed at those who bring up points that are against the Taliban...

I have yet to see aggressive behavior directed at those who are against the Taliban on this forum.

Originally Posted by Tyrion

I'm not sure why, but it seems like a lot of members here blindly support the Taliban, and take every opportunity to show how amazingly Muslim and misunderstood they are... I'm not going to take a side here since I don't know all that much about the actual Taliban, but the thing is, I'm pretty sure most people here don't have a lot of actual experience with the Taliban either, and yet we find vehement supporters everywhere... All I do know (and I've mentioned this before) is that some people from Afghanistan have some pretty horrific tales regarding the Taliban, and that should be enough to at least show some of you that perhaps we can't be so quick to completely support them...

Again, I'm not taking a side. (I've learned that that's probably not a very smart thing to do here) I understand that whatever stories I might hear might not represent ALL of the Taliban, but I'm just kind of tired of the blind support, and the aggressive behavior directed at those who bring up points that are against the Taliban...

[And no, I didn't watch the video... But the things I said were more general anyway, so it's okay. I'll watch it eventually.]

I agree with you.

Originally Posted by Tyrion

[And no, I didn't watch the video... But the things I said were more general anyway, so it's okay. I'll watch it eventually.]

Thats why you shouldn't have replied till you watched it, the guy himself admits they're not perfect and that they need to change their policies

and the main thing that everyone on this forum will support (not sure about you) is the right for them to defend their land from invasion

It's right to defend their land, no doubt.
But they should defend their land within Islamic guidelines.
Not everything they take responsibility for follows Islam.

Originally Posted by ChargerCarl

You still didn't answer my question.

I see this technique is widely used on the forums i.e. ignoring the answer but keep on telling, my quetion is not answered. It was answered by brother Guestfellow that if you keep an eye on daily news and history, you might not ask how it is not propeganda.

Originally Posted by ChargerCarl

You still didn't answer my question.

I don't care.

Originally Posted by ChargerCarl

You still didn't answer my question.

Go away troll.

Anyways, the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq is unjustified and to this day there is no valid reason. We're told it's to "help the people" but i'm sorry, millions are dying from diseases these people have created in the rest of Asia and Africa and they don't get any help?.. It's much cheaper and more peaceful to spread a vaccine than kill innocents every day wtih drones and missiles. False flag attacks have been used throughout the history to justify actions of true terror and tyrany, and things like 9/11 are no different. If people continue to turn the other cheek and choose to believe the mainstream media then they are only living in ignorance and fear, really. The people the Media brands as "terorists", "militants" and whatever else are just regular people. I mean after all, if you're dead, you can't contest that you're innocent.

Originally Posted by Tyrion

I'm not sure why, but it seems like a lot of members here blindly support the Taliban, and take every opportunity to show how amazingly Muslim and misunderstood they are... I'm not going to take a side here since I don't know all that much about the actual Taliban, but the thing is, I'm pretty sure most people here don't have a lot of actual experience with the Taliban either, and yet we find vehement supporters everywhere... All I do know (and I've mentioned this before) is that some people from Afghanistan have some pretty horrific tales regarding the Taliban, and that should be enough to at least show some of you that perhaps we can't be so quick to completely support them...

Again, I'm not taking a side. (I've learned that that's probably not a very smart thing to do here) I understand that whatever stories I might hear might not represent ALL of the Taliban, but I'm just kind of tired of the blind support, and the aggressive behavior directed at those who bring up points that are against the Taliban...

[And no, I didn't watch the video... But the things I said were more general anyway, so it's okay. I'll watch it eventually.]

Asalaamu Alaikum, the fact is the only stories that you are ever likely to hear about the Taliban will be extremely bias ones aimed at branding the Taliban to be like wild animals who lock women up at home and still live in prehistoric times. We all know the media is controlled by zionists and it is they along with America who are funding these illegal wars to achieve their ultimate agenda.

The fact is the Taliban are just normal people who are trying to defend their home and people and if they have no right to do that then nor have you or me to defend our own homes against intrudors.

Originally Posted by Tyrion

I'm not sure why, but it seems like a lot of members here blindly support the Taliban, and take every opportunity to show how amazingly Muslim and misunderstood they are... I'm not going to take a side here since I don't know all that much about the actual Taliban, but the thing is, I'm pretty sure most people here don't have a lot of actual experience with the Taliban either, and yet we find vehement supporters everywhere... All I do know (and I've mentioned this before) is that some people from Afghanistan have some pretty horrific tales regarding the Taliban, and that should be enough to at least show some of you that perhaps we can't be so quick to completely support them...

Again, I'm not taking a side. (I've learned that that's probably not a very smart thing to do here) I understand that whatever stories I might hear might not represent ALL of the Taliban, but I'm just kind of tired of the blind support, and the aggressive behavior directed at those who bring up points that are against the Taliban...

[And no, I didn't watch the video... But the things I said were more general anyway, so it's okay. I'll watch it eventually.]

this is well said.

also, a spokesperson from the taliban is just about as credible as a spokesperson from the whitehouse.

The fact is the Taliban are just normal people who are trying to defend their home and people and if they have no right to do that then nor have you or me to defend our own homes against intrudors.

i think you mean The Fact is the taliban are another example of unwanted foreign interference in afghanistan just like NATO, the Russians, the British, alexander the great, genghis khan, etc.